ACTIONpack Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Remember the favorite phase, "Do No Evil". Well there has been a lot of articles lately about how Google is trying to close out/limited Microsoft and other companies out of web services like Google Maps only working on webkit and not supporting DOC files on Google Doc. I know there are many more I can bring up but I don't feel searching about it now. Microsoft was more open in the 90s with other companies to make sure they can use software on their OS and but Google seem to not like this. Any thoughts about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techbeck Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Remember the favorite phase, "Do No Evil". Well there has been a lot of articles lately about how Google is trying to close out/limited Microsoft and other companies out of web services like Google Maps only working on webkit and not supporting DOC files on Google Doc. I know there are many more I can bring up but I don't feel searching about it now. Microsoft was more open in the 90s with other companies to make sure they can use software on their OS and but Google seem to not like this. Any thoughts about this? A lot of companies are bad and acting the fool latey. Google, Apple, MS, Samsung.....everyone is guilty of something at some point. Just wish companies like this could work together more than fighting back and forth. Block products from being released, suing hte crap out of others...or out right dropping support for other platforms/products. I myself use a mixture of different products from different companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Montage Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I think you meant "than" not "then" in your title. Also "worse" not "worst"... BeerFan, Ice_Blue and Luis Mazza 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astra.Xtreme Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 They reverted the Google Maps block. These are free services, so people shouldn't be hurt if Google decides to set some restrictions. Regardless, Google makes it's money from these on ads, so they don't exactly have the intention of screwing over a large population of people. Dick Montage 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airedwin Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Microsoft wasn't even that bad in the 90s. I think it was just a lot of negative press and public perception. I just remember they were knocked for bundling a browser with their Operating System. Lol. All Operating Systems come with a browser now. What Google is doing now would be the equivalent of Microsoft not allowing anyone to install anything but Internet Explorer or blocking websites out of Internet Explorer. ahhell, TravisSpomer and Dick Montage 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Eternal Tempest MVC Posted January 9, 2013 MVC Share Posted January 9, 2013 No, however there's increased tension between Microsoft and Google. Charisma 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmeunit Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Not supporting .doc shouldn't be an issue. It's only for exporting. MS has a compatibility converter for older Office versions, so export as .docx, then you can open in Office. You can still import .doc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfish Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Microsoft wasn't even that bad in the 90s. I think it was just a lot of negative press and public perception. I just remember they were knocked for bundling a browser with their Operating System. Lol. All Operating Systems come with a browser now. What Google is doing now would be the equivalent of Microsoft not allowing anyone to install anything but Internet Explorer or blocking websites out of Internet Explorer. I remember Ralph Nader complaining that the shell was bundled with Windows and this created an unfair advantage against people who wanted to use alternative shells. /shakes head ahhell 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Method Man Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Dropping support for exporting .doc format is due to the fact that .doc is an obsolete format that shouldn't be used anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis Mazza Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Well, it is a little hard to understand what you really mean, as you completely ignore basic grammar principles... But anyway, here it goes: One of the reasons that this is different for Google is that it isn't actually selling those services. 95% of the services Google provides, are free. Microsoft was selling it's Windows and Office software in the 90's and you couldn't actually install any other operating system in your computer. Actually you could, but that was not 1% as easy as it is today. So, it was considered for a long time, a monopoly. Monopolies do have to behave much better than other companies, or else justice grabs them with it's powerful hands. Google is not a monopoly... Not even on search, but that is debatable. That's why many Google's critics actually attack the company due to it's search business policies. Regarding other activities, which are also provided for free and are not considered a monopoly... Well, Google does whatever it wants! If that is evil or not, one should say why that is evil. Protecting your free products from being used when a company doesn't want them to be used is in their rights as a private company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviator189 Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Aside from the negative press, I don't feel that ms really did much bad in the 90s. Just the perception. Lord Method Man 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anibal P Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 Neither company has done anything "evil" in any context of that word, that you may or may not quite grasp. What's going on is normal everyday competition and MS choosing to do it's own thing and not follow standards again, not sure how this is Google's fault, and I don't know anyone that uses the .doc format, so there's nothing lost in dropping it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growled Member Posted January 10, 2013 Member Share Posted January 10, 2013 From my perspective, no. Google provides a ton of free services that just work. If they are being evil it's out of sight and out of mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Montage Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 It's so cool for people who know "a little bit" about IT, who talk about it with friends but don't really understand it's an industry and not here to provide 101 free services to them, who want to act like they "know the score" to label companies as "evil". It was wrongly done to MS in the 90s. Now google... Well done, have a cookie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACTIONpack Posted January 10, 2013 Author Share Posted January 10, 2013 It's so cool for people who know "a little bit" about IT, who talk about it with friends but don't really understand it's an industry and not here to provide 101 free services to them, who want to act like they "know the score" to label companies as "evil". It was wrongly done to MS in the 90s. Now google... Well done, have a cookie! What type of cookie? YUM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BajiRav Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Google is in competition with Microsoft. So I guess everything is a fair game. They got lucky with Android so good for them. I think problem is mainly with Google cheerleaders (*cough*fanboys*cough*) who defend everything they do. For example, this is a favorite line of thought here on Neowin, Microsoft designing for IE/Windows only: This is bad for open web and Microsoft should be ashamed blah blah Google designing for Webkit only: Webkit is the best and Microsoft should drop Trident and adopt Webkit. <---- WTF?? They reverted the Google Maps block. These are free services, so people shouldn't be hurt if Google decides to set some restrictions. Regardless, Google makes it's money from these on ads, so they don't exactly have the intention of screwing over a large population of people. They reverted after a large outcry last week and that too after caught lying initially. (claiming "Maps is only for webkit" when one of their own had blogged about how it is platform independent) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growled Member Posted January 10, 2013 Member Share Posted January 10, 2013 I think problem is mainly with Google cheerleaders (*cough*fanboys*cough*) who defend everything they do. For example, this is a favorite line of thought here on Neowin, I think the problem is fanboys in general. They all suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primexx Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 i'm still not over them terminating EAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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