Using a mac without a mouse

[n_K]

So I've been trying this for a while and it's actually impossible.

You can't navigate the system preferences at all using just a keyboard so you can't enable mousekeys, and you can't enable mousekeys without using the GUI because apple disabled all the values in 'defaults'....

It actually offends me how apple is getting any marketshare with such a disgusting OS in reguards to such simple accessability features.

Surely I'm just overlooking something here and it's not completely impossible to use a mac without a mouse to enable the mouseless features ?

[OOOOOOOO]

Disgusting OS? LOL!!! ! !I!H!

haha. Sorry ... what? lol.

Google search you goon ... http://www.macworld.com/article/1157890/mousefreemac.html

[The Laughing Man]

Worst troll ever.

[n_K]

Disgusting OS? LOL!!! ! !I!H!

haha. Sorry ... what? lol.

Google search you goon ... http://www.macworld....usefreemac.html

Google search? LOL!119rjie

haha. Sorry ... what? lol.

Read the ****ing post - you can't use system preferences with a keyboard and you can't enable mouse keys without a mouse

Worst troll ever.

Do you have any input on how to get mouse keys working or do you want to go away ?

[tiagosilva29]

Apple Menu -> System Preferences -> Universal Access -> Mouse & Trackpad -> Mouse Keys

[n_K]

Apple menu -> System Preferences -> Universal Access -> Mouse & Trackpad -> Mouse Keys

Christ can you NOT READ?

YOU CANNOT USE SYSTEM PREFERENCES WITHOUT A MOUSE

[Dick Montage]

WTF? It's a mouse-based interface. Using Windows without a mouse is hell. Also, touchpad!

[tiagosilva29]

YOU CANNOT USE SYSTEM PREFERENCES WITHOUT A MOUSE

Control (+fn if on a laptop?) + F2 to Apple Menu, scroll with keys/tab, select with spacebar. I'm not even an Apple user.

[n_K]

WTF? It's a mouse-based interface. Using Windows without a mouse is hell. Also, touchpad!

No it isn't, I can enable mouse keys in windows in 20 seconds using a keyboard.

Control (fn if on a laptop?) + F2 to Apple Menu, scroll with keys/tab, select with spacebar.

I'm not even an Apple user.

Yeah I've done that, using tab you cannot switch to various options in system preferences such as the mouse keys checkbox, that's why I made this thread and clearly included that information in the original post.

[tiagosilva29]

Yeah I've done that, using tab you cannot switch to various options in system preferences such as the mouse keys checkbox, that's why I made this thread and clearly included that information in the original post.

Control + F7 on the tabs.

Apparently you can also activate Mouse Keys using a shortcut which is by pressing Option/Alt (depending on your system version) five times in a row.

[WelshBluebird]

Who the hell uses a desktop OS without some kind of mouse / trackpad / touchscreen??

[n_K]

Control + F7 on the tabs.

Apparently you can also activate Mouse Keys using a shortcut which is by pressing Option/Alt (depending on your system version) five times in a row.

GENIUS! Got it working.

[Dick Montage]

No it isn't, I can enable mouse keys in windows in 20 seconds using a keyboard.

All well and good, but it's not "prescribed" use, moreover it's horrendous. OSX is designed to be used with a pointing device, simple as that. Because you want to do otherwise doesn't make it a horrendous OS.

[tiagosilva29]

Who the hell uses a desktop OS without some kind of mouse / trackpad / touchscreen??

Well... me. But I'm using Fedora.

[n_K]

Who the hell uses a desktop OS without some kind of mouse / trackpad / touchscreen??

You never seen the 'mac osx server' items for sale in the app store since mac got rid of the xserve or is this some poor kind of trolling?

All well and good, but it's not "prescribed" use, moreover it's horrendous. OSX is designed to be used with a pointing device, simple as that. Because you want to do otherwise doesn't make it a horrendous OS.

How is it not a prescribed use? If it wasn't prescribed it wouldn't be in the OS at all. What if your point device breaks and you've got something important to do for your job and you can't? You'd get fired, is my guess.

[Dick Montage]

What if your point device breaks and you've got something important to do for your job and you can't? You'd get fired, is my guess.

Hahahaha what? You get fired if your mouse breaks? Are you 12?

If it wasn't prescribed it wouldn't be in the OS at all

It is there and available, doesn't make it prescribed. Having worked for a company that manufactures "alternative inputs for the differently abled" it's a useful hook-in for such hardware. It's certainly not how Apple (or Microsoft) prescribe the use of their OS.

[AshUK]

Someones got too much spare time on their hands, with all that spare time look up cognitive dissonance and learn a bit of psychology behind your reasoning

[123456789A]

GENIUS! Got it working.

Rather intuitive, isn't it.

[n_K]

It is there and available, doesn't make it prescribed. Having worked for a company that manufactures "alternative inputs for the differently abled" it's a useful hook-in for such hardware. It's certainly not how Apple (or Microsoft) prescribe the use of their OS.

So you and everyone else that commented except for tiagosilva29 decided to go on a bashing spree instead of helping.

So; none of you know? And seeing as you specifically manufacture such inputs I find it disturbing you wouldn't know.

[Dick Montage]

I never said I didn't know. Also learn about tense. Worked. Long before I was involved with the Mac side of things. I took issue with your bs about how it makes the OS unusable, etc. Please learn to read.

Moreover, had you simply asked, you'd have received an answer quicker - but you chose to rant about something you could have simply googled...

[The Laughing Man]

Google search? LOL!119rjie

haha. Sorry ... what? lol.

Read the ****ing post - you can't use system preferences with a keyboard and you can't enable mouse keys without a mouse

Do you have any input on how to get mouse keys working or do you want to go away ?

I'm not the one calling it a "Horrendous OS" because I can't figure out how to use it unconventionally.

[n_K]

I'm not the one calling it a "Horrendous OS" because I can't figure out how to use it unconventionally.

Maybe you need a bit of help;

http://support.apple...iewlocale=en_US

The OFFICIAL APPLE support page for using mousekeys, an INBUILT feature of MAC OS X. You're following it up to this point yes, a feature built in to something with a support page telling you how to use it right?

Now how do you enable mousekeys?

http://support.apple.com/kb/PH4390

Oh look, ANOTHER apple support page on how to enable mousekeys. Unfortunately this doesn't work due to 'Press the Option key five times. (You must first select ?Press the Option key five times to turn Mouse Keys on or off? in the Mouse pane of Universal Access preferences.)' so I asked here about how you enable it seeing as tabbing in system preferences goes from the search box to the list on the left and then right back to the search box meaning you can't get to the checkbox on the right, then tiagosilva29 said about using CTRL + F7 - this isn't documented on any of apple's support pages.

Moreover, had you simply asked, you'd have received an answer quicker - but you chose to rant about something you could have simply googled...

I did google, quite a bit before asking here, there's an applescript that doesn't work, there's a LOT of different terminal commands - none work as they've all been removed from lion and mountain lion, please see above points. Here's the links as you're so interested;

http://efreedom.com/Question/C-39961/Way-Turn-Mouse-Keys-Feature-Using-AppleScript-Terminal-Command

http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20060203225241914

http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/39961/is-there-a-way-to-turn-on-and-off-the-mouse-keys-feature-using-applescript-or-a

http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/os-x-operating-system/247038-lion-terminal-command-turn-off-mouse-keys.html

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2723484?start=0&tstart=0

[Alladaskill17]

WTF? It's a mouse-based interface. Using Windows without a mouse is hell. Also, touchpad!

Yeah, its SO hard to hit the Windows key (Win7), type the program you need to use, hit enter to open... so hard. /s :rolleyes:

[FiB3R]

WTF???It's a mouse-based interface.??Using Windows without a mouse is hell.??Also, touchpad!

For the most part. it's actually very easy, as long as you know what you are doing. And I don't just mean launching applications. I mean totally controlling the system.

[Dick Montage]

But I mean within said applications. My point being, it's 100% a point'n'click gui that 99% assumes a mouse. I don't care about how easy the initial interface may be to fire up an app - the overall usage without a pointing device is not fun!