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[img]http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/16795/slide_16795_233585_large.jpg?1358792193692[/img]

This article is about 1 year old, but I just found it. I didn't know Chernobyl is at the brink of collapsing. They have to build a new cover around it before it falls apart and creates another disaster. That...The world does not need right now.

[b]Source and more photos:[/b] [url="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/02/chernobyl-25-years-after-_n_816902.html#s233577"]http://www.huffingto...02.html#s233577[/url]

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That is sad.

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[img]http://uppix.net/d/7/3/2f5d2fb23e73b529dc475b86ec46a.jpg[/img]

[url="http://www.chnpp.gov.ua"]http://www.chnpp.gov.ua/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=300&Itemid=101&lang=uk[/url]

[font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]"[b]New Safe Confinement" is currently being built already.[/b][/font]

[font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][b]There is another site [/b][/font][url="http://www.kiddofspeed.com/"]http://www.kiddofspeed.com/[/url] about a girl who traveled on Chernobyl on her bike.

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Interesting looking structure.

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[quote name='Scorbing' timestamp='1358792209' post='595468588']


This article is about 1 year old, but I just found it. I didn't know Chernobyl is at the brink of collapsing. They have to build a new cover around it before it falls apart and creates another disaster. That...The world does not need right now.

[b]Source and more photos:[/b] [url="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/02/chernobyl-25-years-after-_n_816902.html#s233577"]http://www.huffingto...02.html#s233577[/url]
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Indeed old, never the less an interesting subject to be brought up every now and then!

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[url="http://www.chnpp.gov.ua"]http://www.chnpp.gov.ua/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=300&Itemid=101&lang=uk[/url]

[font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]"[b]New Safe Confinement" is currently being built already.[/b][/font]

[font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][b]There is another site [/b][/font][url="http://www.kiddofspeed.com/"]http://www.kiddofspeed.com/[/url] about a girl who traveled on Chernobyl on her bike.
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This proved to be fake, it wasn't a girl enthuastic about journalism, rather she tailed a long a group of tourists on a tour operators guide, still, nice pictures!

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[quote name='Draconian Guppy' timestamp='1358793311' post='595468650']
Indeed old, never the less an interesting subject to be brought up every now and then!



This proved to be fake, it wasn't a girl enthuastic about journalism, rather she tailed a long a group of tourists on a tour operators guide, still, nice pictures!
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:(

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[quote name='Scorbing' timestamp='1358794253' post='595468688']
:(
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[quote name='Draconian Guppy' timestamp='1358795498' post='595468718']
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You said the structure was a fake. Makes me sad,

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[quote name='Scorbing' timestamp='1358796702' post='595468780']
You said the structure was a fake. Makes me sad,
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Oh my bad! the structure isn't fake! that is true and is being built, the website of the so called journalist is fake:

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[font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif][b]There is another site [/b][/font][url="http://www.kiddofspeed.com/"]http://www.kiddofspeed.com/[/url] about a girl who traveled on Chernobyl on her bike.[/size][/color]

[color=#282828]This proved to be fake, it wasn't a girl enthuastic about journalism, rather she tailed a long a group of tourists on a tour operators guide, still, nice pictures![/color]

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I'd like to visit the place one day. One of the best, if not the best, examples of the actual frailty and weakness of mankind. And not because of ignorance, but carelessness and negligence.

I gather it's considered to be rather safe now [s]unless you wander into the anomalies and pseudodogs eat your sorry ass[/s].

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safe if you stay on pavement or cement roads IIRC

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I think Chernobyl is a perfect example of how dangerous our current Nuclear situation is. It is a reminder that, and I quote President Ronald Reagan:

"A nuclear was cannot be won and should never be fought."

We as a people and "owners" of this world, have the power to either succeed or fail, to destroy or to create, to live in peace or war. U.S. ARMY General Omar Bradley couldn't say it any better:

[color=#ff0000][i]"The central problem of our times is how to employ Human intelligence for the salvation of mankind. It is a problem we have brought upon ourselves. Missiles will bring anti-missiles and anti-missiles will bring anti-anti-missiles. If we don't stop soon, the day will come when not even the ingenuity of our scientists will be able to save us."[/i][/color]

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[quote name='Scorbing' timestamp='1358797793' post='595468828']
I think Chernobyl is a perfect example of how dangerous our current Nuclear situation is. It is a reminder that, and I quote President Ronald Reagan:

"A nuclear was cannot be won and should never be fought."

We as a people and "owners" of this world, have the power to either succeed or fail, to destroy or to create, to live in peace or war. U.S. ARMY General Omar Bradley couldn't say it any better:

[color=#ff0000][i]"The central problem of our times is how to employ Human intelligence for the salvation of mankind. It is a problem we have brought upon ourselves. Missiles will bring anti-missiles and anti-missiles will bring anti-anti-missiles. If we don't stop soon, the day will come when not even the ingenuity of our scientists will be able to save us."[/i][/color]
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:rolleyes:
You aren't trying hard enough pushing your agenda.

Nuclear power is extremely safe if the plant isn't ran by incompetent jackasses.
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You confuse war with the production of energy and by extension doing a useful job. Remember how dynamite was invented and what it ended up being in hands of jackasses.
As for our ultimate or otherwise demise, if it's not nuclear power, it will be something else. So let's pack our sh* and go back to caves. Which will one day all cave in and bury us anyway, because Oomba-toomba god will get angry at us for praising him too loud, causing him headache.
I figure that biological warfare is by and large more potent than any nuclear bomb or nuclear accident. Radiation is far less contagious. One can shield or escape from reasonable levels of radiation. People live after working in the Zone, even lived after being blown away by the Bomb. Superflu like the recent mutation? Good luck with that, folks.

*me hides in the Pulowski preservation shelter before this becomes a nuclear flame thread*

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[quote name='ahhell' timestamp='1358799134' post='595468898']
:rolleyes:
You aren't trying hard enough pushing your agenda.

Nuclear power is extremely safe if the plant isn't ran by incompetent jackasses.
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I am not making an agenda nor trying to push one, I am simply stating the fact that Nuclear power is dangerous if not handled properly and if used for the wrong purposes by the wrong hands and yes, you are right, there are a lot of incompetent jack asses out there who have no idea what the word Nuclear really means but there is also a lot of evil out there and a lot of idiots who hate the United States and its allies and would rather see the world burn in flames than make peace. The way the world is going, It's only a matter of time before someone manages to do something so stupid, it will make 911 look like nothing.
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I'm double minded about nuclear power. It is dangerous and deadly if unleashed. On the other hand, for the most part the nuclear industry has a superb record.

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This reminds me of a wonderful documentary I saw a while back called "Into Eternity" [url="http://www.intoeternitythemovie.com/"]http://www.intoeternitythemovie.com/[/url] check it out anyone worried about nuclear power, even if you are not worried you should watch it.

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Why is it so difficult to section off the nuclear waste when they must have taken that isotope to the plant in the beginning, why can't they do they same again?

I know its all over the place from the explosion but there must have been some transport to begin with

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[quote name='Detection' timestamp='1358819925' post='595469660']
Why is it so difficult to section off the nuclear waste when they must have taken that isotope to the plant in the beginning, why can't they do they same again?

I know its all over the place from the explosion but there must have been some transport to begin with
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Because .... of the explosion?

I mean, that [i]is[/i] the answer. Because of the explosion.

Besides, nuclear waste =/= the starting material. It's called 'waste' for a reason.

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[quote name='Kirkburn' timestamp='1358820586' post='595469670']
Because .... of the explosion?

I mean, that [i]is[/i] the answer. Because of the explosion.

Besides, nuclear waste =/= the starting material. It's called 'waste' for a reason.
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How do they transport the fuel to begin with?

That is my question, however they do that, could it not be done on a much larger scale ?

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[quote name='Scorbing' timestamp='1358797793' post='595468828']
I think Chernobyl is a perfect example of how dangerous our current Nuclear situation is. It is a reminder that, and I quote President Ronald Reagan:

"A nuclear was cannot be won and should never be fought."

We as a people and "[b]owners[/b]" of this world, have the power to either succeed or fail, to destroy or to create, to live in peace or war. U.S. ARMY General Omar Bradley couldn't say it any better:

[color=#ff0000][i]"The central problem of our times is how to employ Human intelligence for the salvation of mankind. It is a problem we have brought upon ourselves. Missiles will bring anti-missiles and anti-missiles will bring anti-anti-missiles. If we don't stop soon, the day will come when not even the ingenuity of our scientists will be able to save us."[/i][/color]
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Not the owners, we are the "guardians" maybe. Time we started acting like it IMO.

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[quote name='Detection' timestamp='1358820965' post='595469676']
How do they transport the fuel to begin with?

That is my question, however they do that, could it not be done on a much larger scale ?
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The fuel is kept in smallish tubes that a person can hold, while with Chernobyl the entire building is radioactive (and the fuel has melted and solidified into a large mass), never mind all the radioactive dust.

The dust is the main problem, if you knock it down (or if it collapses) the dust will spread, it'll get on workers, etc. It's easier just to enclose the whole structure than attempt a cleanup (Compare this to Fukushima Daiichi, where it was contained and limited, and they can clean it up)
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[quote name='The_Decryptor' timestamp='1358821650' post='595469700']
The fuel is kept in smallish tubes that a person can hold, while with Chernobyl the entire building is radioactive (and the fuel has melted and solidified into a large mass), never mind all the radioactive dust.

The dust is the main problem, if you knock it down (or if it collapses) the dust will spread, it'll get on workers, etc. It's easier just to enclose the whole structure than attempt a cleanup (Compare this to Fukushima Daiichi, where it was contained and limited, and they can clean it up)
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I remember watching a documentary of their clean up attempts, putting young guys out on the roof to remove parts of the reactor before the sarcophagus was built,

Their robots were even failing due to the radiation levels, guys were only allowed on the roof for a few seconds at a time and were absolutely ill after their turn

Amazingly some of them were still alive to make the film all those years later, not without health problems though

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I went there and got something that comes in very handy.

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I remember watching something on the discovery channel (I think), turns out Chernobyl is quite the wildlife preserve now

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