rfirth Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 "Sir" Attenborough and people that believe like him are idiots We've had crackpots making these same comments for centuries and it hasn't happened, crap like this falls under the "It's a Conspiracy" forum Overpopulation isn't a conspiracy. It's a scientific fact, and yes, very observable in a laboratory and in nature. We?re in the midst of the Earth?s sixth mass extinction crisis. Harvard biologist E. O. Wilson estimates that 30,000 species per year (or three species per hour) are being driven to extinction. Compare this to the natural background rate of one extinction per million species per year, and you can see why scientists refer to it as a crisis unparalleled in human history. osm0sis 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisj1968 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 An incredible man. I 100% agree with him, although I choose to refer to mankind as a virus rather than a plague. Obviously not in day-to-day conversation, but on the topic of our over population and consumption of resources without much (if any) thought to sustainability. philanthropy and eugenics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics vs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philanthropy makes me wonder.. two sciences by supposed people of this guys caliber.. Attenborough .. who decides who lives or dies? he has no right to say people must die or slow the population growth.this whole science is a sham.. but a bunch of hedonistic rubbish. the rich feel they have this innate right to live over everyone else... lol ... centuries past, this same elite tried to inbreed with themselves since they feel they are a "superior" breed and came out with some seriously screwed up offspring. probably the reason people like him say such things is because he has the failed genes of these inbred feral vermin John S. 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growled Member Posted January 23, 2013 Member Share Posted January 23, 2013 He may be right (or not) about the blight but I'm always wary of people calling for population control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linsook Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Nobody is asking for population control by force. He is quoted in the article, if any of you guyswho chastised him bothered to read, saying through sex education and voluntary means. osm0sis 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloatingFatMan Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Nobody is asking for population control by force. He is quoted in the article, if any of you guyswho chastised him bothered to read, saying through sex education and voluntary means. The trolls here would rather ignore the facts and go with their own weird interpretation of what was said. osm0sis and +hedleigh 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConfusedFusion Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I fully agree, i have always wondered if some day a big hand is gonna come out of the sky, see its marbles are just too dusty with germs called humans will use a scoop to clean up the mess we have created. We are nothing but a virus that keeps spreading and spreading. For many in 3rd world countries, population growth minus the education is power and a way to create and control wealth. We have destroyed the planet for future generations, for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seta-san Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 let's start with the southern hemisphere. The people there can't seem to stop having kids there knowing full well they can't afford them. ChrisJ1968, you are an idiot. He's not saying we should kill people. We should just limit population growth and I sort of agree with him. Ban surrogacy, if you can't have children naturally the first thing you should be thinking of is adoption. I think it's almost inhumane to go to these enormous lengths to create children when there are so many children out there that need parents. Secondly, make all birth control free and legalize abortion everywhere. At least I'm contributing by being gay! most countries that have birth control and abortions are already below population replacement levels. It's the poor countries who can't seem to keep their pants on. any country above 2.1 is above replacement level and is a cancer on the world http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories_by_fertility_rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seta-san Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 And you are gay. Okay, I take it back. lol. classic but seriously. stop giving money to Africa. Stop giving them immunizations or giving out HIV meds like candy. Starvation and disease is the reward a people earn when they populate without the means of taking care of their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REM2000 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Reminds me of the scene from the matrix where Smith tells Morpheus that he considers humans a virus, as all other living things work in a equilibrium. Where as mankind, like a virus consumes and destroys, i have to say when he said it i did agree, there has not been many human civilizations that have attempted to live in equilibrium, the only one i know off the top of my head is the american Indians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jub Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 but seriously. stop giving money to Africa. Stop giving them immunizations or giving out HIV meds like candy. Starvation and disease is the reward a people earn when they populate without the means of taking care of their own. Not sure if serious? You might want to consider a shot to the head at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighwayGlider Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 He dude's old enough from the pic. I guess he can die now, leaving space for others. He should lead... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
He's Dead Jim Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Have to agree with Sir Dave on this one, well said that man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seta-san Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Not sure if serious? You might want to consider a shot to the head at some point. i'm deadly serious. Why do we keep trying to feed starving African kids when their lives only amount to **** at best anyway? They live in squalor in shanty towns or **** huts. They are plagued by every manor of disease and they bread like rabbits. Look at the birth rate list. All the intelligent countries have rates far below replacement levels where as a **** hole like Niger as 7.5 children per woman. Jesus should have said "Blessed are the ignorant, starving poor, for they shall inherit the earth" because smart people aren't having kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
He's Dead Jim Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 i'm deadly serious. Why do we keep trying to feed starving African kids when their lives only amount to **** at best anyway? They live in squalor in shanty towns or **** huts. They are plagued by every manor of disease and they bread like rabbits. Look at the birth rate list. All the intelligent countries have rates far below replacement levels where as a **** hole like Niger as 7.5 children per woman. Jesus should have said "Blessed are the ignorant, starving poor, for they shall inherit the earth" because smart people aren't having kids. All the petro/nuclear military industrial complex you mean... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seta-san Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 All the petro/nuclear military industrial complex you mean... I mean countries where people have a chance to make something of themselves. Where parents, for the most part, have children responsibly. Where there is education, high literacy, and regular access to sanitation. If that's what you mean by petro/nuclear military industrial complex.. then yes... That makes the petro/nuclear military industrial complex freaking awesome in my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jub Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 i'm deadly serious. Why do we keep trying to feed starving African kids when their lives only amount to **** at best anyway? They live in squalor in shanty towns or **** huts. They are plagued by every manor of disease and they bread like rabbits. Look at the birth rate list. All the intelligent countries have rates far below replacement levels where as a **** hole like Niger as 7.5 children per woman. Jesus should have said "Blessed are the ignorant, starving poor, for they shall inherit the earth" because smart people aren't having kids. "Intelligent countries"? Developed countries, more likely. They don't have the same education as us, the same rights, quality of life and so on. We spent centuries in Europe (which is where you come from, unfortunately) in dark ages. We died of plague, starvation, war and ignorance due to the Church. Guess why there are still people in Europe (people that populated modern day America)? Oh right, they squeezed out so many babies as they possibly could because the mortality rate was so incredibly high. I don't think we should necessarily "feed them", but I think it's our responsibility--since we have developed a certain type of society--to support them and try to get them on their feet. Oh and I do not care for one second what "Jesus" may have said. He was just like the people you are expressing your dislike for; poor, starving and married to a prostitute. Ah, right, and he was Jewish, don't know why Christians got that confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashpowell Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Completely agree, humans are a bacteria to earth, and at the moment.. not a good one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+hedleigh Subscriber² Posted January 23, 2013 Subscriber² Share Posted January 23, 2013 let's start with the southern hemisphere. The people there can't seem to stop having kids there knowing full well they can't afford them. Have you ever looked at an atlas? Moronic statement. Population growth is happening across the board, except maybe in places like China. I would say that a fair amount of the animals native to the USA would think that it is over populated with humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seta-san Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Have you ever looked at an atlas? Moronic statement. Population growth is happening across the board, except maybe in places like China. I would say that a fair amount of the animals native to the USA would think that it is over populated with humans. lol. for some reason I always saw Africa as being mostly below the equator. my point still stands. most countries south of north America and Europe are general crap with a higher than replacement level of births and according to this guy are plagues on the earth. P.S. population growth is 'NOT' happening across the board. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependent_territories_by_fertility_rate look at the data. Any country that has a higher than 2.1 birth rate has a higher than replacement level of births. Look at the countries with the highest. It's all Africa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+hedleigh Subscriber² Posted January 23, 2013 Subscriber² Share Posted January 23, 2013 lol. for some reason I always saw Africa as being mostly below the equator. my point still stands. most countries south of north America and Europe are general crap with a higher than replacement level of births and according to this guy are plagues on the earth. Again it seems you have missed his point though. We are all a plague on the earth, not just the ones from poor countries. Also the poorer nations probably have less impact on the planet than developed ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seta-san Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Again it seems you have missed his point though. We are all a plague on the earth, not just the ones from poor countries. Also the poorer nations probably have less impact on the planet than developed ones. not really. as burning coal and gas certainly isn't good but has gotten very clean over the years whereas they slash/burning the rainforest for grazing land for their animals. The earth can take our C02 if we have the plants to devour it. The earth has seen a significantly higher CO2 release before humans just by volcanic activity... burn the rainforest and we're all ****ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArKeYa Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 "Sir" Attenborough and people that believe like him are idiots We've had crackpots making these same comments for centuries and it hasn't happened, crap like this falls under the "It's a Conspiracy" forum :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
]SK[ Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I think you'll find the average carbon footprint of someone living a 1st world country is way more than anyone in a 3rd, +hedleigh 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+hedleigh Subscriber² Posted January 23, 2013 Subscriber² Share Posted January 23, 2013 not really. as burning coal and gas certainly isn't good but has gotten very clean over the years whereas they slash/burning the rainforest for grazing land for their animals. The earth can take our C02 if we have the plants to devour it. The earth has seen a significantly higher CO2 release before humans just by volcanic activity... burn the rainforest and we're all ****ed. It's also caused by developed nations wanting fancy wooden furniture made from rainforest timber. Some of the worst offenders are multinational companies looking for a quick and cheap profit. http://www.rain-tree.com/facts.htm#.UP-7UjXJa14 is just one page I found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seta-san Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 SK[' timestamp=1358936808' post='595472650]I think you'll find the average carbon footprint of someone living a 1st world country is way more than anyone in a 3rd, our carbon foot print is indeed large. but nothing compared to what the earth has put out in volcanic eruptions. The earth can handle CO2. The earth can't handle the lack of vegetation(the rain forests). It's also caused by developed nations wanting fancy wooden furniture made from rainforest timber. Some of the worst offenders are multinational companies looking for a quick and cheap profit. http://www.rain-tree...tm#.UP-7UjXJa14 is just one page I found. No, paper for furnisher or paper is grown specifically for that purpose. It's not taken from natural wooded areas and where it is it's only allowed by government as a mean of controlling wild fires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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