Mando Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 But, but the poRn is better than evar .... :p awww dontcha miss the 8-bit pixelated strip poker images :p I'm an optimist. I'm sure some new gadgets that will be released in the next 10 years will blow everyone's minds off. The sound and video quality are destined to become better too. As for the computers, the power will keep on increasing, while the size of the chips will continue to shrink - that, coupled with new materials being invented, will open new possibilities: wearable computers, augmented reality, etc. agree to a point but the higher the resolution and display quality doesn't make up for the dearth that is content, film studios are stuck in a cash cow loop. a turds a turd in HD/SuperHD or in 3D :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippleman Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 or apple suing everybody.... -_- only apple lawsuits get the limelight, if you do fine research, you will see google, MS and all the other ones sue more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice_Blue Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Remember typing assembler code from PC Magazine into Debug.com? Double checking painstakingly before hitting CTRL-Z. Setting DIP switches on your expansion card, then booting and praying there wouldn't be an IRQ conflict? The sense of reward and gratitude you felt after succeeding? Haggis 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anibal P Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I never considered computers "magical"!? I was programming simple BASIC logic puzzles when I was 7 and always saw them as a tool. The cyberpunk nonsense you remember was absolute guff that Holywood pushed. Ah the good old days, for me it was rewriting PCjr Games for a PC AT clone we had, back in the days when computer mags had programs you could type in in the middle, and wondering why there had to be different syntax's in BASIC for the PC AT and PCjr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted January 29, 2013 Subscriber² Share Posted January 29, 2013 I grew up with Dos then Win 3.0 and the magic is still there but the Net is slowing ruining it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekkidtruth Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 That's a very ignorant thing to say. That wouldn't change anything nor bring back that spark we use to feel. Not really ignorant at all. Generally when people aren't "feeling" something anymore, they no longer do it. It's a perfectly reasonable suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detection Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 I've lost some of the magic feeling, I think Win 7 was the last OS I actually got even slightly excited about when builds leaked, Vista I was jumping up and down each new leak, I didn't really have much interest in 8 even though my younger self would have not been able to sleep with such a radical change as the new UI I used to get excited during Vista leaks even if the only change was a new sound or icon :laugh: I think it is age, I feel like I am fighting a losing battle against boringness, I get the odd moment here and there where I`ll head over to BA and grab an old Beta of some OS and play with it in VMWare but it lasts only up until the first crash or error and I return to just wanting a working machine again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmbraceNext Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 or apple suing everybody.... -_- Everyone sues everyone. Actually patent trolls are suing people way more than the large companies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jamesyfx Subscriber² Posted January 29, 2013 Subscriber² Share Posted January 29, 2013 I think the magic is still there, but convenience and complacency has made a lot of people less likely to discover new things or build something. I mean I've recently bought a Raspberry Pi, and I've already created a few interesting web-based applications for it, the whole thing is really interesting to me. There's also Arduinos and other IC's that you can mess about with. These types of things are far more accessible than they used to be. I've really been enjoying getting back to the bare command line on an OS, you do feel like you're more in control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc2k Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Magic died with Steve Jobs. :shifty: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaP Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 The magic is not gone. You just got old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aludanyi Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 The magic started dying when they started dumbing everything so that grandma could use it. Install LFS (Linux From Scratch) or at least Arch Linux - preferably without a GUI ;) - fire up Perl, Emacs and maybe a litte GCC (or LLVM/Clang if you really want to feel the magic) and trust me, the magic will be there and your grandma wouldn't be able to watch while you use it let alone to use it herself :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raa Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Yeah I tend to agree sadly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MS Bob 11 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Install LFS (Linux From Scratch) or at least Arch Linux - preferably without a GUI ;) - fire up Perl, Emacs and maybe a litte GCC (or LLVM/Clang if you really want to feel the magic) and trust me, the magic will be there and your grandma wouldn't be able to watch while you use it let alone to use it herself :) And your point is? Without GUI there is no magic. We need something that advances the GUI, doesn't take a huge step back just for Grandma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spenser.d Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 You're following the wrong things now, that's why - go check out "The Human Face of Big Data" if you want some pretty awesome perspective about where we are right now and where we can go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick H. Supervisor Posted January 30, 2013 Supervisor Share Posted January 30, 2013 And your point is? Without GUI there is no magic. We need something that advances the GUI, doesn't take a huge step back just for Grandma. In fairness to aludanyi, you said that the magic was lost when they started dumbing it down so that more people could use a computer. The GUI was probably the biggest step towards doing that. Before you just had the command line which wasn't very intuitive for your average joe. So really, when you say that the magic was gone when they started dumbing it down for Grandma, what you mean is that the magic was lost when they started locking everything down so that your average person couldn't easily break their machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyDX Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I've lost some of the magic feeling, I think Win 7 was the last OS I actually got even slightly excited about when builds leaked, Vista I was jumping up and down each new leak, I didn't really have much interest in 8 even though my younger self would have not been able to sleep with such a radical change as the new UI I used to get excited during Vista leaks even if the only change was a new sound or icon :laugh: I think it is age, I feel like I am fighting a losing battle against boringness, I get the odd moment here and there where I`ll head over to BA and grab an old Beta of some OS and play with it in VMWare but it lasts only up until the first crash or error and I return to just wanting a working machine again Yeah I agree so much with this! :D What I miss the most from these days is entire communities analyzing the workings of Vista and making mods, new skins and themes, unlocking Aero and whatnot while nowadays I feel like no community is really interested in Windows 8 and if anything there are maybe five people making mods for it :( Oh well maybe it will happen with Win9 again who knows^^ Detection 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted January 30, 2013 Veteran Share Posted January 30, 2013 there just isn't any good hype anymore... and not I'm not talking about Apples hype machine...... I'm talking about tech that people think wow that is awesome and never done before... when the first Mac came out it was a wow... when the first smart phone (it was an IBM device in 1992 called the Simon, and no it was not the Apple newton which came out in 1993) came out way way back it was a wow... first tablet in the late 90's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 The magic is just beginning. I can't wait to see where mobile technology goes in the next few years. I'm planning to move to a tablet over this year. The magic started dying when they started dumbing everything so that grandma could use it. Boo hoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torolol Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 for me, the magic was to creates a working program in assembly languages, it was common during Dos era, dwindling in x86 windows era, almost disapears in current 64-bit OS. "what ###### is that", its the common response when I tried to preach about assembly to 64-bit masses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Active. Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 when the first Mac came out it was a wow And remember the Mac's tagline? "The Computer for the rest of us" ? It wasn't the techies among us who the Mac was trying to wow...the iPad and such devices today are only a logical extension of that. And certainly today, techies are not who the market caters to anymore. Which doesn't mean that there aren't exciting areas and diy projects to work on, play and tinker with for hobbyists, but it simply isn't the mainstream anymore, which imo is actually a very good thing. And in the end, someone still has to program all those wonderful new easy to use devices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I laugh at today's youth who think they "know" computing simply because they know how to run a few apps or navigate their way around a dumbed down OS. Yet, ask them a networking question or ask them to code something and they are at a complete loss. I abhor coding. I won't go near it with an infinite foot pole. You can keep it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted January 30, 2013 Veteran Share Posted January 30, 2013 for me, the magic was to creates a working program in assembly languages, it was common during Dos era, dwindling in x86 windows era, almost disapears in current 64-bit OS. "what ###### is that", its the common response when I tried to preach about assembly to 64-bit masses. Ah assembly.... I remember in comp sci when people took assembly they thought it was "an out dated dead language"..... yeah the closest thing to machine code is dead.... wish people would realize what complining and linking is actually doing... and that assembly can get you stuff done much faster then some of the predesigned libraries and functions... hence why we have __asm in C++ and similar things in some other languages... And remember the Mac's tagline? "The Computer for the rest of us" ? It wasn't the techies among us who the Mac was trying to wow...the iPad and such devices today are only a logical extension of that. And certainly today, techies are not who the market caters to anymore. Which doesn't mean that there aren't exciting areas and diy projects to work on, play and tinker with for hobbyists, but it simply isn't the mainstream anymore, which imo is actually a very good thing. And in the end, someone still has to program all those wonderful new easy to use devices. yeah but it was something new and different... it had a GUI based OS which was not common, hence the wow factor..... wow != dumbing down, it means something new that hasn't been widely done before..... iPhone wasn't a "wow" because smart phones existed before it.... iPad wasn't a wow, because honestly it was just a bigger iPhone.... iPod wasn't a wow, because there was hundreds of MP3 players before it..... iMac Mini was kinda a wow because it was so small and compressed.... Touch screens where kinda a wow factor because average users couldn't afford them or have a use for them until recently... Bluray should of been a wow but the internet ruined that.... because there was no high def high fidelity storage method... internet still can't match 1:1 blu-ray quality streaming.... TiVo was a wow because DVR was a new idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aludanyi Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 I abhor coding. I won't go near it with an infinite foot pole. You can keep it. LoL... you say that only because you can't have it, not in a million years. If you are capable to construct software, there is no such force in the Universe which is able to prevent you from doing it, it is the ultimate pleasure for the mind.If you aren't capable, then you hate it, or abhor it as you say, and you want to run away from it as fast as you can as far as possible. I guess, there can't be magic without wizards... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malisk Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 there just isn't any good hype anymore... and not I'm not talking about Apples hype machine...... I'm talking about tech that people think wow that is awesome and never done before... when the first Mac came out it was a wow... when the first smart phone (it was an IBM device in 1992 called the Simon, and no it was not the Apple newton which came out in 1993) came out way way back it was a wow... first tablet in the late 90's... The last time I felt that was during the when he skydived and broadcast it live, then entered the stage after having just skydived. Along with the . I can't wait for Google Glass to become a mainstream product! I can imagine people at beaches can, though. Haha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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