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#61 BajiRav

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Posted 18 February 2013 - 21:22

It was successful because PS2 didn't have an online service, any game that was online capable for PS2 the servers were run by the developer of the game.

uh? so now you are saying Xbox 360's head start didn't have anything to do with paid nature of XBL? why bring PS2 into this when it didn't have any centralized online service?


#62 TheLegendOfMart

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 07:39

uh? so now you are saying Xbox 360's head start didn't have anything to do with paid nature of XBL? why bring PS2 into this when it didn't have any centralized online service?

You were the one bringing Xbox Live for the first xbox into it. All I was saying is that Xbox Live got a foothold because it was the first online service for a console and that it didn't have any competition, the Xbox sold 24 million, the PS2 has sold 150 million, then with the next generation it had a full year head start so if you wanted next gen and wanted to play online you HAD to get Xbox Live Gold. Had they launched side by side I think things would have been a bit different.

PS3 is already catching up sales wise despite Xbox having a year headstart and will probably surpass them in the not to distant future.

#63 AbandonedTrolley

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 09:16

...that's pretty god damn impressive.


Gone up a little but still a decent price for 12 months data.

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item43b556ed07

#64 TheLegendOfMart

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 10:32

I remember when o2 did these for iPhone 4, years worth of data for £15. Might grab one, does the year start when I activate it?

#65 AbandonedTrolley

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 10:54

I remember when o2 did these for iPhone 4, years worth of data for £15. Might grab one, does the year start when I activate it?


I believe it's activated by the guys that sell before posting. They need to be activated on an iPhone I believe, I guess if you have access to one you could message the seller and ask him to not activate it.

Perfect for the Vita where I was previously tethering my mobile to it. Now I don't have to worry.

#66 BajiRav

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:28

You were the one bringing Xbox Live for the first xbox into it. All I was saying is that Xbox Live got a foothold because it was the first online service for a console and that it didn't have any competition, the Xbox sold 24 million, the PS2 has sold 150 million, then with the next generation it had a full year head start so if you wanted next gen and wanted to play online you HAD to get Xbox Live Gold. Had they launched side by side I think things would have been a bit different.

PS3 is already catching up sales wise despite Xbox having a year headstart and will probably surpass them in the not to distant future.

Right, all I said that XBL was a hit even before Xbox 360/PS3 came out because of Halo 2. You implied earlier that XBL worked because PS3 came out a year later whereas it was already a success in the previous generation (even if on a smaller scale).
I am not interested in getting into sales thing, factors and results are already well known. :/

#67 TheLegendOfMart

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:31

I believe it's activated by the guys that sell before posting. They need to be activated on an iPhone I believe, I guess if you have access to one you could message the seller and ask him to not activate it.

Perfect for the Vita where I was previously tethering my mobile to it. Now I don't have to worry.

That's a shame, would have loved to have kept one aside just in case I needed the internet on something. I don't have access to an iPhone to be able to activate it.

#68 MightyJordan

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:36

Gone up a little but still a decent price for 12 months data.

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item43b556ed07

£18.99. Still pretty god damn impressive. Better coverage now too, as T-Mobile merged with Orange to become EE. I don't mind them activating it either; there are two iPhones in the house here, but they're both locked to O2, so I wouldn't be able to activate, and I've no need to pay the money to unlock mine, as I'm on giffgaff. The only concern I have is it says you get unlimited data browsing, but 500MB of downloading each month, so what's their way of differentiating between browsing and downloading? Because browsing technically is downloading. I'd assume playing online games on the Vita would fall under the downloading criteria.

#69 AbandonedTrolley

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 13:40

£18.99. Still pretty god damn impressive. Better coverage now too, as T-Mobile merged with Orange to become EE. I don't mind them activating it either; there are two iPhones in the house here, but they're both locked to O2, so I wouldn't be able to activate, and I've no need to pay the money to unlock mine, as I'm on giffgaff. The only concern I have is it says you get unlimited data browsing, but 500MB of downloading each month, so what's their way of differentiating between browsing and downloading? Because browsing technically is downloading. I'd assume playing online games on the Vita would fall under the downloading criteria.


Given that there aren't any games that you can effectively play online via 3G it's limited to things like posting near data, email, collecting GPS data for apps like TravelBug, T@G or the turn based games like the card based Uncharted game or Pure Chess.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 14:09

It's a great service, and I've been surprised by that as well. $50? What a no-brainer!

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 15:14

You were the one bringing Xbox Live for the first xbox into it. All I was saying is that Xbox Live got a foothold because it was the first online service for a console and that it didn't have any competition, the Xbox sold 24 million, the PS2 has sold 150 million, then with the next generation it had a full year head start so if you wanted next gen and wanted to play online you HAD to get Xbox Live Gold. Had they launched side by side I think things would have been a bit different.

PS3 is already catching up sales wise despite Xbox having a year headstart and will probably surpass them in the not to distant future.


How many Xbox360s did Microsoft sell before the PS3 came out? 4-5 million xbox360s? How many of those were Live? lets say half. But now there are over 40 million XBOX Live users,therefore even if they launched side by side,it would have made zero of a difference.

And sales wise, PS3 has a good 9 million on XBOX360 in Japan. Its Japan,sonys home turf,and they make software tailor made for that market. And who cares about those numbers anyways when its the software sales that matter. XBOX360 destroys PS3 in software sales. They sell massively more software,and that's where the profit is.

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 15:49

It's a great service, and I've been surprised by that as well. $50? What a no-brainer!

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I'm confused..... What did I do? :p Or is this a jab at my golden boy :)

#73 Skwerl

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 17:13

I'm confused..... What did I do? :p Or is this a jab at my golden boy :)


Just a Golden Boy quote. I believe that's exactly what he's saying in the scene your avatar comes from. I can't believe I ran across that in my collection just a couple weeks ago (Hello again, high school memories).

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 17:39

Just a Golden Boy quote. I believe that's exactly what he's saying in the scene your avatar comes from. I can't believe I ran across that in my collection just a couple weeks ago (Hello again, high school memories).


Ah ya lol. When he's working at the computer programing place. I love his interpretation of C+ into sexual bases :p Sure is some old memories of watching this :)