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It is the job of parents to discipline their children, not strangers.

No its not, its the governments job. Haven't you paid attention to the news lately? Disciplining your child is practically against the law in the US. The only people that can possibly raise our children right is the government. /s

There's simply no way to draw the line, as when does a "spanking" become assault?

The line is well defined in law. Touch the child and its assault. There is no grey area.

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No its not, its the governments job. Haven't you paid attention to the news lately? Disciplining your child is practically against the law in the US. The only people that can possibly raise our children right is the government. /s

As they say, it takes a village.

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It is the job of parents to discipline their children, not strangers - even then it should never be done with an implement like a belt. I don't think she'd appreciate somebody disciplining her for stepping out of line. Some people shouldn't be allowed out in public.

If more kids were spanked with belts, we'd have a lot less disrespectful screaming ****ers running around.

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If more kids were spanked with belts, we'd have a lot less disrespectful screaming ****ers running around.

It's simply not possible to draw the line between discipline and assault when talking about physical implements like a belt. If you can't get your message across using just your hand then using a belt won't work either and all too often it's used to by the parents to feel powerful rather than doing what's best for their kid. I, like most people in the UK, was never beaten with a belt and I've never been in trouble with the law, nor have I been involved in any fights. Needing to use a belt shows that you've failed as a parent.

Rather than such stone age thinking we should be looking to the real issues - the failings of the education system, a culture that values possessions above deeds, addiction, social deprivation, a lack of upward social mobility, a society fearful of standing up to wrongdoing, a legal system that penalises common sense, etc. The idea that parents beating their children with belts would improve society is frankly ridiculous.

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It's simply not possible to draw the line between discipline and assault when talking about physical implements like a belt. If you can't get your message across using just your hand then using a belt won't work either and all too often it's used to by the parents to feel powerful rather than doing what's best for their kid. I, like most people in the UK, was never beaten with a belt and I've never been in trouble with the law, nor have I been involved in any fights. Needing to use a belt shows that you've failed as a parent.

Look at the kids from a lot of other countries that still do this. You will almost never see those kids misbehave.

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It is the job of parents to discipline their children, not strangers - even then it should never be done with an implement like a belt. I don't think she'd appreciate somebody disciplining her for stepping out of line. Some people shouldn't be allowed out in public.

I was waiting for your holier than thou reply, and you did not fail. Thank you.

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If it's the parent's job to discipline the child, then where was this parent at when the cookie was thrown? Or, while the child was chased down? Or, when the child was spanked/hit with a belt? Obviously they have no business being parents at all if they can't even account for the very child they are to watch over, yet discipline.

Funny....30-40 years ago it would have been customary to thank another adult for disciplining your child.

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It is the job of parents to discipline their children, not strangers - even then it should never be done with an implement like a belt. I don't think she'd appreciate somebody disciplining her for stepping out of line. Some people shouldn't be allowed out in public.

We do have judges, at least in the majority of the civilized world, and their specific charge is to discipline people in public...

I feel that problematic children shouldn't be allowed in public. Parents need to properly raise their children as society at large suffers when they fail to do their job properly. Throwing an object at someone is an attack, an assault at the least, and if it hit the lady it is a battery. If they wanted to be fair, both should have been charged.

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Funny....30-40 years ago it would have been customary to thank another adult for disciplining your child.

And it wasn't long ago that black people had to sit at the back of the bus and drink from separate water fountains because of the colour of their skin. Thankfully society moves on.

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If the clerk was young, cute and into spanking I might be interested. :p

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^ I'll see you in line. ;)

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The boy's mother and sister, who were also in the store, did not witness the spanking, according to the chief.

Well, that speaks volumes. I don't particularly believe in spanking, but I do certainly believe in discipline. Yes, the mother has a right to be angry, but she should also be embarrassed if anything. I know I'd be.

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And it wasn't long ago that black people had to sit at the back of the bus and drink from separate water fountains because of the colour of their skin. Thankfully society moves on.

The same society that used to pull out a chair for a woman? Or, the same society that men stood when addressing a woman? Or the same society that actually said hello to strangers on the street? The same society that would hold a door open?

Yeah, we can all play that game.

Society has moved on....now, did it get better? Or worse?

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The same society that used to pull out a chair for a woman? Or, the same society that men stood when addressing a woman? Or the same society that actually said hello to strangers on the street? The same society that would hold a door open?

You're comparing beating a child with a belt to holding open a door for a stranger? :|

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you're elevating the disciplines damage to be comparable to a beating as if a spanking causes long term harm to a child, it doesnt. thats why it is the best form of discipline

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People have never been allowed to go around assaulting other people's children. There was physical discipline in schools but that's not comparable to this case.

I can think of plenty of adults worthy of the same treatment but that's not how a civilised society behaves.

"Civilized" society, as you call it, is what has gotten us into the mess we're in now globally. Everybody is afraid of offending everybody else, so nothing gets done so we can all be politically correct. Sometimes a brat needs an ass whoopin', and if the parents won't do it then somebody else needs to. Scolding doesn't work, it doesn't instill any respect, because after they turn about 3 they realize you're not actually doing to "do" anything. Take their toy? They have more. Put them in the corner? Can't leave them there all day. Turn off the internet? They've got toys. Ground them? Whatever. But a spanking? Fear of physical pain is a powerful motivator. I'm not saying that "every" child needs to be spanked for every misbehavior, and I'm not saying we should beat them over the head with clubs, but I totally support spanking with a belt or a paddle if it's relevant or if the child hasn't responded to more "civilized" means of corrective action, and if the kid was running around throwing things at the store clerk, and the mother didn't even witness the spanking, then obviously the parent wasn't doing her job and the kid needed to be taught to respect somebody. Now he's going to grow up with a chip on his shoulder, thinking he's "all that and a bag of chips", or whatever kids say these days, because the one person who actually spanked him got arrested.

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You're comparing beating a child with a belt to holding open a door for a stranger? :|

No, you are. I'm comparing an overall society of yesterday to that of today.

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Thankfully the number of people who consider it acceptable to beat their children with a belt or other object is shrinking, just like those who oppose gay marriage. If that's the consequence of political correctness then I'm all for it!

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