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#46 Stup0t

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 18:46

You yanks and your lawns.... lol


#47 TheLegendOfMart

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 18:46

Still ignoring history are we? Every single time there was bans in the US, violent crimes involving guns shot up against national averages which continue to fall. Nice try. Don't let the facts hit you on the way out...actually...do. Maybe then you will come here with truth and not lies.

If 11,000 gun homicides a year is working, I'd hate to see what not working is.

Take your America bashing to some other place.

Pro-gunners bash the UK just because we dare to speak up against the almighty home of the brave, land of the free, OH SAY CAN YOU SEEEEEEEEEEEEEE........

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 18:48

thanks. So the cops do not have a constitutional obligation to protect. But really if their motto is to serve and protect, they should either do what it says or change the motto. But the way these people were killed...calling the cops wouldnt of helped. The cops wouldnt of gotten there in time.


The police cannot possibility be everywhere. This is not a police state.

#49 ILikeTobacco

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 18:49

If 11,000 gun homicides a year is working, I'd hate to see what not working is.

So you are saying you want more gun homicides and to you that increase in gun homicides is justified because at least then law abiding citizens don't have guns? That makes sense in... well.. nowhere. Stop drinking the cool-aid.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 18:49

If 11,000 gun homicides a year is working, I'd hate to see what not working is.


Pro-gunners bash the UK just because we dare to speak up against the almighty home of the brave, land of the free, OH SAY CAN YOU SEEEEEEEEEEEEEE........


Show me some UK bashing threads? Preferable try to stay on topic.

#51 TheLegendOfMart

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 18:53

So you are saying you want more gun homicides and to you that increase in gun homicides is justified because at least then law abiding citizens don't have guns? That makes sense in... well.. nowhere. Stop drinking the cool-aid.

85 gun homicides compared to 11,000 in 2011.

Show me some UK bashing threads? Preferable try to stay on topic.

So being anti gun is now classed as "US Bashing"?

#52 ILikeTobacco

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 18:54

85 gun homicides compared to 11,000 in 2011.

In the UK, limited guns has caused gun homicides to decrease. Grats. In the USA, banning guns has had the exact opposite effect. Those are the facts that you are willingly ignoring over and over and... Until you can realize that the UK /= USA, you will continue to spout the flawed logic and continue to not recognize history. Pretty sure you are doing it on purpose at this point though.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 18:55

Here is the list of European countries whose most recent murder rates exceeded the U.S.'s.

• Greenland (19.2)
• Russia (10.2)
• Moldova (7.5)
• Lithuania (6.6)
• Ukraine (5.2)
• Estonia (5.2)
• Belarus (4.9)

http://www.americant...test_media.html

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 18:58

In the UK, limited guns has caused gun homicides to decrease. Grats. In the USA, banning guns has had the exact opposite effect. Those are the facts that you are willingly ignoring over and over and... Until you can realize that the UK /= USA, you will continue to spout the flawed logic and continue to not recognize history. Pretty sure you are doing it on purpose at this point though.

Banning them in certain states won't work, it has to be a countrywide ban.

#55 ILikeTobacco

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 18:59

Here is the list of European countries whose most recent murder rates exceeded the U.S.'s.

• Greenland (19.2)
• Russia (10.2)
• Moldova (7.5)
• Lithuania (6.6)
• Ukraine (5.2)
• Estonia (5.2)
• Belarus (4.9)

http://www.americant...test_media.html

Rates are getting low and lower every year but statistics and facts don't work in this argument anymore.

#56 1941

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 18:59

85 gun homicides compared to 11,000 in 2011.

So being anti gun is now classed as "US Bashing"?


No but this is:

Americans are too selfish to put it into practice.


and this is:

land of the free, OH SAY CAN YOU SEEEEEEEEEEEEEE........



#57 ILikeTobacco

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 19:00

Banning them in certain states won't work, it has to be a countrywide ban.

Which we know can't happen since there are plenty of legitimate reasons to own them, not to mention we actually have borders that are impossible to patrol. Also, you are still arguing that we don't have the right to defend ourselves, meaning you are belittling the value of human life giving you no ground to stand on to begin with.

#58 TheLegendOfMart

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 19:00

Slightly lower year on year isn't anything to be proud of when you have over 11,000 gun homicides alone a year.

Which we know can't happen since there are plenty of legitimate reasons to own them, not to mention we actually have borders that are impossible to patrol. Also, you are still arguing that we don't have the right to defend ourselves, meaning you are belittling the value of human life giving you no ground to stand on to begin with.

No ones saying you don't have the right to defend yourself, the fact that you need a gun to do so is a sad thing.

No but this is: selfish americans

Hardly bashing when it is fact, all you hear from pro-gunners is me me me, they dont want gun bans, they dont want heavy restrictions, they dont want magazine restrictions, they dont want semi auto rifle bans, etc.. etc.. even go as far as threatening the government that they will shoot anyone who tries to come and take their guns away, naming no names.

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 19:02

Banning them in certain states won't work, it has to be a countrywide ban.


This will not happen/

While the most recent murder rate is fairly low for the United States, we often hear that other countries like Australia, Japan and the UK have much lower murder rates. If we want to compare countries, we should not "cherry pick." Let's look at all countries. The United Nations collects such data. Out of 206 countries, the US ranks 103 - smack in the middle.


http://www.americant...test_media.html

#60 ILikeTobacco

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 19:07

No ones saying you don't have the right to defend yourself, the fact that you need a gun to do so is a sad thing

Whether it is sad or not isn't the topic. You just admitted it is a fact. You just defeated yourself.