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#31 Javik

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 22:02

There's absolutely no guarantee that AMD will stick to the same socket either, buying computer components on a basis of complete guesswork isn't rational. All I am trying to do is advise him to buy the product that will perform best in his price range. If it had been 2005 and the question had been AMD Opteron vs Pentium D I'd have advised the AMD option hands down, but this is 2012 and the Intel option will be his best bet for gaming. Yes, sockets are likely to change but that's nothing more than guesswork at the moment.


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Posted 09 February 2013 - 22:04

There's absolutely no guarantee that AMD will stick to the same socket either, buying computer components on a basis of complete guesswork isn't rational. All I am trying to do is advise him to buy the product that will perform best in his price range. If it had been 2005 and the question had been AMD Opteron vs Pentium D I'd have advised the AMD option hands down, but this is 2012 and the Intel option will be his best bet for gaming. Yes, sockets are likely to change but that's nothing more than guesswork at the moment.


Guesswork?

AMD have always done their best to provide backwards compatible hardware, I had an ancient AM2 board with this PII 965 I have now in my AM3+ board

Yes they will inevitably move to a new socket board which will require a new socket CPU, but do some research...

#33 Jeston

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 22:24

I have to agree with Javik. With all the benefits going to the 2500k and it being almost the same price, it would be ludicrous to not go for that over the AMD.

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Should be /thread.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 22:26

Hi All

Got Me a NEW System in June 2012, Spent months debating between AMD and Intel, In the End Choose an AMD APU based system with my budget could handle, and have to say it holds it's own in games, and other things I do, sure not the fastest machine I could've gotten, but it works for my needs.

Runs Metro 2033 Just fine, Battlefield 3, Crysis 3, Secondlife, and Photoshop and Windows 8 Pro 64bit

Thought about AMD Fx system for a bit there, but ended up being over budget for myself

#35 Javik

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 22:28

Guesswork?

AMD have always done their best to provide backwards compatible hardware, I had an ancient AM2 board with this PII 965 I have now in my AM3+ board

Yes they will inevitably move to a new socket board which will require a new socket CPU, but do some research...


That approach might be cheaper but it also causes technology to stagnate. My motherboard was actually the most expensive part of my current build, even more so than the CPU but I was happy to pay it because it's a fantastic board. Even if the physical characteristics of a CPU socket stay the same, newer motherboards invariably bring some technological enhancements so staying with the same motherboard for years isn't necessarily a good thing anyway.

#36 Luc2k

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 22:29

I have to agree with Javik. With all the benefits going to the 2500k and it being almost the same price, it would be ludicrous to not go for that over the AMD.

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Should be /thread.


You could buy cheaper parts and overclock those unlike anything else that isn't K series which only allow for a very tiny increase.

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#37 OP Elliot B.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 22:30

That approach might be cheaper but it also causes technology to stagnate. My motherboard was actually the most expensive part of my current build, even more so than the CPU but I was happy to pay it because it's a fantastic board. Even if the physical characteristics of a CPU socket stay the same, newer motherboards invariably bring some technological enhancements so staying with the same motherboard for years isn't necessarily a good thing anyway.

I never pay more than £50 for a motherboard since I don't overclock, and also since motherboards don't affect system performance at all. As long as the motherboard has the right amount of ports for me, I'm happy.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 22:31

I say go for AMD, difference is negligible nowadays in gaming, plus they are cheaper and normally better in multithreading task (most of newer games are like this), thin about it, you get nice hardware for less (plus a motherboard that will surely last longer that most of the intel builds)

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 22:31

Insanely high power usage. Around 100-150 watts idle, and 300+ at load (and that's without overclocking).


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#40 Javik

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 22:33

You could buy cheaper parts and overclock those unlike anything else that isn't K series which only allow for a very tiny increase.

/thread?


And given that the 2500k is about the same price as the 8350 that argument is null and void and was before you even wasted the effort on typing.

I never pay more than £50 for a motherboard since I don't overclock, and also since motherboards don't affect system performance at all. As long as the motherboard has the right amount of ports for me, I'm happy.


Complete fallacy. Motherboards absolutely have an effect on system performance.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 22:34

That approach might be cheaper but it also causes technology to stagnate. My motherboard was actually the most expensive part of my current build, even more so than the CPU but I was happy to pay it because it's a fantastic board. Even if the physical characteristics of a CPU socket stay the same, newer motherboards invariably bring some technological enhancements so staying with the same motherboard for years isn't necessarily a good thing anyway.


You're just supporting his point. He was able to upgrade to the newest motherboard with all the "technological enhancements" and keep his old CPU.

#42 Javik

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 22:35

And as stated, he'll be buying a new socket regardless of what he buys so that's completely irrelevant. Anyway, the facts have been presented. The 2500k is a better CPU than the 8350 for his needs, it's the same price, and it consumes less power. Those are the facts, and I am no longer going to waste my time with this as if the OP wants to take the advice of people that are advising him to basically waste his money that's his loss.

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 22:38

You're just supporting his point. He was able to upgrade to the newest motherboard with all the "technological enhancements" and keep his old CPU.


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Posted 09 February 2013 - 22:39

Please note... there is no post where Javik says actually something in favor of AMD, all what he tries to do is to promote Intel. (look at his post for it, it isn't the first time that he does that, even when persons only asks for AMD processors only)

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Posted 09 February 2013 - 22:40

And as stated, he'll be buying a new socket regardless of what he buys so that's completely irrelevant. Anyway, the facts have been presented. The 2500k is a better CPU than the 8350 for his needs, it's the same price, and it consumes less power. Those are the facts, and I am no longer going to waste my time with this as if the OP wants to take the advice of people that are advising him to basically waste his money that's his loss.


No, I said I would buy an 8350 CPU, which is the same socket as the motherboard I own

My upgrades are my choice