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#16 MDboyz

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 17:25

Yet it will be a burden on her parents to take care of her and her kid later on. However, this is the thing you have to be responsible for being parents.


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Posted 13 February 2013 - 17:31

She can give the baby up for adoption

If you want to make adult decisions when you are clearly not ready to shoulder the responsibility, you should be held accountable for them and not push your problems onto others due to your inability to make responsible decisions.

If she has this baby at 16, it will mean:

- Parents/grandparents almost guaranteed to be forced to help with the baby. Means increased financial burden and time.
- Girl will most likely not complete her education.
- Girl will have a hard time trying to work.

So yeah, how is it such backward logic? She will be burdening her parents/grandparents for her irresponsibility.


She can give the baby up for adoption.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 17:37

Which is what I said. She can be kicked out to fend for herself.

You are messed up. Seriously.

You care more about the financial burden than your kids.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 17:43

This. The parents have no right to force her to have an abortion but she should think very carefully about continuing with the pregnancy if she doesn't have the support of her parents. Having a child is a huge responsibility and doing it alone at her age would not be in the best interests of her or the child, as it would almost certainly preclude her getting a proper education or a decent job. There is also no mention of the father either, so I don't see how she thinks she can raise the child by herself.

She probably has watched one to many of episodes of Teem Mom on MTV.
And sadly, I am not kidding.

#20 theyarecomingforyou

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 17:45

She probably has watched one to many of episodes of Teem Mom on MTV.
And sadly, I am not kidding.


Yeah. A lot of teen mothers don't realise the consequences of having a child. I mean, by the time her child is 16 she'll be 32 - that's a pretty huge commitment.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 17:57

Sounds like an open and shut case to me. Although with that said, I don't think the daughter understands that the parents can then be in their rights to make her shoulder the responsibility. She'll need her family behind her to stand a chance with this in my opinion.


To me, it sound like she would be better off on her own. Its tough but that is life. If the allegations of verbal abuse are true, the child would be better off raised in a healthy atmosphere away from these people.

The fact that the girl's mother conspired to slip a drug in her daughter drink to force an abortion tells me that these people are irresponsible people who do not respect their daughter and by extension will probably not respect their grandchild.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 18:00

over here, education is free, and when you have kids you are covered in the "basics" anyway. though by no means is it free or easy. But even without a government who don't care about individuals or people who are not the 1% 16 years are capable of taking care of themselves and a baby if they are willing to do it.

America has "free" education until you are 18 (free as in people pay for it through taxes, the same as your system). And this whole "1%" BS is just that. So to quote you further :-
basically everything you say is plain and pure BS.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 18:04

This. The parents have no right to force her to have an abortion but she should think very carefully about continuing with the pregnancy if she doesn't have the support of her parents. Having a child is a huge responsibility and doing it alone at her age would not be in the best interests of her or the child, as it would almost certainly preclude her getting a proper education or a decent job. There is also no mention of the father either, so I don't see how she thinks she can raise the child by herself.


It is tough, but teenage mothers do it all the time. There are women's groups and government aid available for them. She can pretty much forget about getting a proper education and a decent job, but some still manage to pull that off as well.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 18:06

America has "free" education until you are 18 (free as in people pay for it through taxes, the same as your system). And this whole "1%" BS is just that. So to quote you further :-
basically everything you say is plain and pure BS.


There's not a single thing in his post that is even slightly incorrect, but bear in mind that he's from Norway; a vastly different society to yours.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 18:08

America has "free" education until you are 18 (free as in people pay for it through taxes, the same as your system). And this whole "1%" BS is just that. So to quote you further :-
basically everything you say is plain and pure BS.


What is BS about HawkMan's statement? He saying that even if they are not in the "1%" they are capable of raising a child. Statistics are stacked against them, and both the 16 year old and the child will most likely have a poverty stricken life.

But you guys are speaking in absolutes like "there is no way possible for her to raise this child and they will both shrivel up and die if they try" which is utter nonsense because there are actual examples of women who do succeed despite teenage pregnancy and no family support.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 18:13

There's not a single thing in his post that is even slightly incorrect, but bear in mind that he's from Norway; a vastly different society to yours.

"over here, education is free" implying that it is not in the USA which is incorrect.
"But even without a government who don't care about individuals or people who are not the 1%" - I highly doubt he is talking about Norway there either (although the triple negative doesn't help)

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 18:22

Judging by her taking this decision to stop her parents, I'd say she HAS decided to shoulder the responsibility. She's not begging for anyone to make decisions for her, or look after the kid. She's trying to stop her parents from forcing her to do something she doesn't want to do.


She is just an arrogant child who thinks it will be "cool" and nice to have a child. I guarantee she has no clue the amount of responsibility it will take to raise the child.

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 18:26

She is just an arrogant child who thinks it will be "cool" and nice to have a child. I guarantee she has no clue the amount of responsibility it will take to raise the child.


You guarantee that do you? Based on a short article, with no knowledge of the girls personality or life or anything at all? But still, you guarantee it?

Man, I can smell the BS from here, and I'm 1000's of miles away from you. :p

#29 FloatingFatMan

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 18:32

"over here, education is free" implying that it is not in the USA which is incorrect.


Any "implication" is purely your own. He made a simple statement about Norway.

"But even without a government who don't care about individuals or people who are not the 1%" - I highly doubt he is talking about Norway there either (although the triple negative doesn't help)


Your government DOESN'T care about individuals, neither does your society as a whole, so he's quite right there.

#30 HSoft

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Posted 13 February 2013 - 18:39

Any "implication" is purely your own. He made a simple statement about Norway.

Then his initial statement of "basically everything you say is plain and pure BS." is incorrect. One person was talking about America, the other Norway and as you point out they are vastly different cultures and societies thereby negating the comparison. You can't have it both ways :rofl:

Your government DOESN'T care about individuals, neither does your society as a whole, so he's quite right there.

So the government doesn't help anybody? The fact that we have more receiving government benefits than the population of Spain according to you doesn't count?
To quote you :-
Man, I can smell the BS from here, and I'm 1000's of miles away from you



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