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Fighting dirty: Microsoft


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Microsoft just came out with the second phase of its "Scroogled" campaign, a series of fearmongering attack ads aimed at Google that are very similar to the political attack ads that flood the airwaves during election season.

Dramatic voiceover. Vague implications of danger. Damning clips of the opponent saying something stupid (thanks, Eric Schmidt). "Email between a husband and wife or two best friends should be completely personal," a smooth-voiced announcer says in one spot. "But Google crosses the line and goes through every single Gmail."

As is typical when political campaigns go negative, there was a bit of a backlash. Critics say Microsoft is spreading FUD

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Slash other's products so your own product gets higher praise. That's a typical argument that's used in politics; doesn't stick so well.

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The thing is Microsoft does make better products (Outlook.com comes to mind) but the media shuns everything Microsoft and spends most of its time and energy worshipping Google. The media and tech sites, does a fine job of tearing Microsoft a new one for everything they do, so I guess Microsoft decided if they wanted something done right (in this case, done at all) they were going to have to tear Google down themselves.

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This reeks of desperation and its not fooling anyone

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The thing is Microsoft does make better products (Outlook.com comes to mind) but the media shuns everything Microsoft and spends most of its time and energy worshipping Google. The media and tech sites, does a fine job of tearing Microsoft a new one for everything they do, so I guess Microsoft decided if they wanted something done right (in this case, done at all) they were going to have to tear Google down themselves.

I'd use Gmail over Outlook.com any day.. and I am not the media.

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I'd use Gmail over Outlook.com any day.. and I am not the media.

Do you want a prize?

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I went to bing.com today and was greeted with this message;

'By using this site you agree to the use of cookies for analytics, personalized content and ads.'

...

I will never be visiting bing again in my life.

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Do you want a prize?

Is the prize... magical?

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Hrrm... after years of Microsoft's competitors attacking them for not supporting standards, when they didn't support standards any better than MS did (ie Firefox wasn't good until 3.0), and with Google consciously alluding to the "Evil Empire" image of Microsoft created by competitors by saying "don't be evil", I don't think they have nothing to complain about.

Which isn't to say I don't think the worry over Google Ads isn't paranoid, and that Microsoft isn't spreading FUD by not presenting the issue in a more straightforward way.

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The thing is Microsoft does make better products (Outlook.com comes to mind) but the media shuns everything Microsoft and spends most of its time and energy worshipping Google. The media and tech sites, does a fine job of tearing Microsoft a new one for everything they do, so I guess Microsoft decided if they wanted something done right (in this case, done at all) they were going to have to tear Google down themselves.

That is your opinion. There is no proof that Outlook.com is better.

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I went to bing.com today and was greeted with this message;

'By using this site you agree to the use of cookies for analytics, personalized content and ads.'

...

I will never be visiting bing again in my life.

Are you based in the UK because I presume that's only appearing to comply with the UK's implementation of the EU's cookie directive.

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That is your opinion. There is no proof that Outlook.com is better.

And I haven't played with it since the new Outlook.com (which, granted, does look nice), but for about a decade there hotmail was absolute dog ****. So to act like only Google worshipers use Gmail is beyond ridiculous. Gmail change email for a lot of people, myself included, and I have absolutely no interest in changing to Outlook or any other provider.

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I went to bing.com today and was greeted with this message;

'By using this site you agree to the use of cookies for analytics, personalized content and ads.'

...

I will never be visiting bing again in my life.

You do realise that pretty much every site you visit does this too. At least more and more sites are using a similar disclaimer.

You may as well just quit the internet if you don't agree with it.

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I'm just going to leave this here:

http://www.thebestpa...u=boiling_blood

Almost as annoying as people who say "The thing is, Microsoft does make better products", when that's clearly an opinion but stated as a fact. :laugh:

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Google are no better IMO. Both companies need to stop bickering.

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I'm just going to leave this here:

http://www.thebestpa...u=boiling_blood

Maybe besides making childish comments like this, make posts that are actually stated as opinion and not fact. I was just pointing that out.

Almost as annoying as people who say "The thing is, Microsoft does make better products", when that's clearly an opinion but stated as a fact. :laugh:

:)

Google are no better IMO. Both companies need to stop bickering.

Exactly..same goes with Apple and Samsung.

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Maybe besides making childish comments like this, make posts that are actually stated as opinion and not fact. I was just pointing that out.

EDIT: nvm i'm done here. Stupid discussion.

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It seems to me that Microsoft is a bit desperate here. No matter what they do they can't seem to get a break while Google is still the media's darling.

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EDIT: nvm i'm done here. Stupid discussion.

It's tough when you spout opinion as fact and people don't agree eh?

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Seems more of a PSA to me, since most GMail users probably don't know and merely signed up because of the phone they purchased. Hence litle knowledge or care of the privacy pro/con of which ecosystem they were joining.

I just hate it cause it gives DBags like Luntz jobs.

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I liked it better when Microsoft kept their mouth shut.

While I'm rather annoyed at Google lately, Microsoft really has no room to talk, and plenty of room for improvement.

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You do realise that pretty much every site you visit does this too. At least more and more sites are using a similar disclaimer.

You may as well just quit the internet if you don't agree with it.

Google allows opting out via DNT, and using thier cookies, MS does not.

In fact it's pretty funny how MS keeps slating google yet in everything I see (minus compatibility) google seems better than MS does.

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Google allows opting out via DNT, and using thier cookies, MS does not.

In fact it's pretty funny how MS keeps slating google yet in everything I see (minus compatibility) google seems better than MS does.

bull****.

https://choice.microsoft.com/en-US

(for clarification sake, the above is not an opinion, and I backed it up with a source, for those with reading comprehension issues)

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The thing is Microsoft does make better products (Outlook.com comes to mind) but the media shuns everything Microsoft and spends most of its time and energy worshipping Google. The media and tech sites, does a fine job of tearing Microsoft a new one for everything they do, so I guess Microsoft decided if they wanted something done right (in this case, done at all) they were going to have to tear Google down themselves.

That's your opinion. MS just fixed some of the sharing options for Live 365. Outlook.com does look better than Hotmail, but it's not nearly as intuitive for me, or as featureful (is that a word?). Google for me ALWAYS finds better results, no matter how many time I've tried to use Bing.

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