DocM Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 It'll be interesting to see if its track parallels the Urals event. http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/sci/2013-02/16/c_132171646.htm Suspected meteor explosion reported in central Cuba2013-02-16 12:59:27 HAVANA, Feb. 15 (Xinhua) -- An object fell from the sky over central Cuba on Thursday night and turned into a fireball "bigger than the sun" before it exploded, a Cuban TV channel reported Friday, citing eyewitnesses. Some residents in the central province of Cienfuegos were quoted as saying that at around 8 p.m. local time Thursday (0100 GMT Friday) they saw a bright spot in the sky comparable to a bus in size. The object then turned into a fireball "bigger than the sun," said the witnesses, adding that several minutes later they heard a loud explosion. One resident told the TV station that his house shook slightly in the blast. Cuban experts have been dispatched to the area to look for possible remains of the meteor-like object, said the report. It remains unknown whether the reported phenomenon in Cuba is related to Friday's meteor strike in central Russia, which set off a shockwave that shattered windows and left some 1,000 people injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Anarkii Subscriber² Posted February 16, 2013 Subscriber² Share Posted February 16, 2013 Interesting. Looks like armageddon is finally comin. Bout bloody time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XerXis Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 The size of a bus? I have a hard time believing that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsherGZ Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Nah a little meteor shower is hardly armegeddon. Been happening for centuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted February 16, 2013 Author Share Posted February 16, 2013 The size of a bus? I have a hard time believing that one. Why? They come in all sizes up to the size of Mt. Everest, which KO'ed the dinosaurs. The size of a bus is still middling when it comes to meteors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XerXis Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Why? They come in all sizes up to the size of Mt. Everest, which KO'ed the dinosaurs. The size of a bus is still middling when it comes to meteors. Of course, but the one in Russia was about the size of a car. And if it was the size of Mt Everest we sure as hell would have noticed it. ;) In fact the one that went past us (DA14) is "only" 45 meters in diameter and that one was clearly visible and it's trajectory known long before it got near us. So it would surprise me that an object the size of a bus (more or less 14 to 20 meters?) could enter our atmosphere unnoticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted February 16, 2013 Author Share Posted February 16, 2013 That DA14 was noticed was unusual. We know only a few of the near Earth asteroids, and even fewer of the ones bus sized (which is within the payload bay size of many launchers) and smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Som Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Interesting. Looks like armageddon is finally comin. Bout bloody time! ya i'm tired of having to work n' stuff ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XerXis Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 That DA14 was noticed was unusual. We know only a few of the near Earth asteroids, and even fewer of the ones bus sized (which is within the payload bay size of many launchers) and smaller. Ow ok, I know you are very knowledgeable about everything space related so I stand corrected. I still think it's strange though that NASA, which tracks all space debris out of fear of it hitting the ISS, wouldn't know about bus sized asteroids hitting us. Is it because of their speed and trajectory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted February 16, 2013 Author Share Posted February 16, 2013 Yup. At 33,000 mph it covers the distance to the moon in just 8 hours. You could count the number of telescopes looking for them on one hand & fit the people running all of them into a single McDonalds, and they aren't distributed evenly across Earth's surface. Most are in the US, Europe or Western Russia, so we have big blind spots. Even then, most of those scopes are small, and many meteors and asteroids are nearly black & not very reflective. Many are black as coal (carbonaceous chondrites.) Then there are the space radars dedicated to tracking missiles, satellites and space junk, but their range and resolution is limited. Bottom line: our capabilities are very limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted February 16, 2013 Subscriber² Share Posted February 16, 2013 I would think that if this did happen it would have been seen from southern Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted February 16, 2013 Author Share Posted February 16, 2013 Not for long :) I'm sure the radars we have monitoring the Gulf, Caribbean & Cuban airspace saw it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakers Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Am I also right in thinking that there's no reliable way to spot incoming objects if they're coming from the direction of the sun? I thought I read that somewhere in one of the various news reports but I can't find it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gary7 Subscriber² Posted February 16, 2013 Subscriber² Share Posted February 16, 2013 Am I also right in thinking that there's no reliable way to spot incoming objects if they're coming from the direction of the sun? I thought I read that somewhere in one of the various news reports but I can't find it now. The one in Russia was very visible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted February 16, 2013 Author Share Posted February 16, 2013 Space radars can in principle see the larger ones from most directions, but for the most part they only track known satellites & space junk and look for missile launches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phouchg Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Only commie countries are getting hit. It's a sign from god! Or, well, aliens... Or god-believing aliens! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Nothing over CUba, but there was a small fireball over the SF Bay area last night. Nothing to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neoadorable Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 these happen all the time, i'm sure everyone here was sitting in their living room or something when there was suddenly a borderline flash of light and then a loud bang? could be power transformer down the block blowing off, could have been a rock from space. it's part of nature as Doc described, and thanks as always for the info. honestly I had more faith in our tracking abilities, but this is even more reason to start expanding to other world cause sooner or later one a tad bigger than a Dragon launch vehicle will show up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted February 17, 2013 Author Share Posted February 17, 2013 This one turned out to be a hoax - a bit of me-too-ism on the part of the Cubans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growled Member Posted February 18, 2013 Member Share Posted February 18, 2013 I suspect we'll be hearing of several me-too events in the next few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 This one turned out to be a hoax - a bit of me-too-ism on the part of the Cubans. Source for that? I knew from the start it was, but I was waiting to see confirmation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Laughing Man Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 Source for that? I knew from the start it was, but I was waiting to see confirmation. An early email from an astronomer, but now that's being called into question at his end too. Russian media is running the story and some video (some videos are also popping up on YouTube.) http://english.ruvr.ru/2013_02_17/Meteorite-explodes-over-Cuba-VIDEO/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dot Matrix Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 An early email from an astronomer, but now that's being called into question at his end too. Russian media is running the story and some video (some videos are also popping up on YouTube.) http://english.ruvr....ver-Cuba-VIDEO/ Looks like the date of that video is circa 2006. I have yet to see any conclusive proof that anything even happened. No solid testimony, no solid videos or pictures. I'd still call this one a hoax. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGxFBUdWROQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocM Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 Hmmmm perhaps so, it is Russian media and they can be a bit creative - like the comments about their meteorite being a US weapons test :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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