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[quote]Well, that was weird. [url="http://kotaku.com/5985759/sony-announces-the-playstation-4"]We got a console reveal without Sony actually revealing the console[/url]. It's left a lot of people confused, maybe even concerned, so given the chance we had to ask: where was the PS4?

[font=Georgia, Times,][size=4]"Why do you care?", jokes Shuhei Yoshida, president of Sony's Worldwide Studios.[/size][/font]

[font=Georgia, Times,][size=4]Pressed as to what we should be reading into when we get a console reveal without the reveal of the console, Yoshida tells Kotaku "It was almost the other way around. When we planned for this event, obviously we discussed what we should show and talk about."[/size][/font]

[font=Georgia, Times,][size=4]"As far as the DualShock 4 is concerned we wanted to do the live demo. And we were like, yeah, we have to show the controller, because it's awkward not to show the controller when someone is doing a demo. And also the feature that the DualShock 4 has, the share button, is a very key idea behind the design of the PS4... We really wanted to explain what we've done with the DualShock 4, but as far as the system itself we have to keep something new for later. Otherwise you'd get bored."[/size][/font][/quote]

Source: [url="http://kotaku.com/5985824"]http://kotaku.com/5985824[/url]

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It would have been nice to see the console itself, and I am sure images will leak before long. But seriously, we all have a rough idea of what consoles look like: a black box with power/eject buttons and a slot/tray for discs.

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This generation is going to be quite socially engineered. Look at the amount of wagglan mess that the PS4 has to offer, including a tie-in WITH FACEBOOK just so you can actually sign-in to the damn console. If this doesn't start ringing bells well get ready for more.

The conference was a joke, it showed five actual games, two are multi-plat (watch dogs and D3), two are rehashes (infamous and killzone) and one is a random game called knack. There was a move game that has you wagglan around building pieces of dung to make a human, and a totally not real demo of people pulling strings on puppets.

They revealed fairly heavy online functions, including streaming capabilities and playing the game while downloading. These two offerings are going to be very tech heavy, hell just streaming WoW and trying to play is laggy enough, better yet a game like BF4. They also require extremely fast internet to actually get anywhere, which half the world does not have.

Various real time scenes were shown, including a year old tech demo from Unreal and Square. Honestly, we need to see games. Confirming that there is no backwards compatibility is a kick in the guts, and means those games you just bought are now useless unless you feel like constantly switching consoles. They also give the vita another kick by saying its useless and can now only "stream" ps4 games.

Honestly, this PS4 has interesting tech and ideas, but was just executed so poorly you can tell its a rush job. Expect $5xx price tag and a release at the end of the year with no games.
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seriously Humanz, get over yourself

they have to save some things for E3. beside they announced 9 games today. what more do you want roughly 9 months before the thing even releases?
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He could just come out and say it's running on PS4 hardware and we haven't finalized the design and don't want to show it off until it's done....

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[quote name='humanz.' timestamp='1361418102' post='595533726']
This generation is going to be quite socially engineered. Look at the amount of wagglan mess that the PS4 has to offer, including a tie-in WITH FACEBOOK just so you can actually sign-in to the damn console. If this doesn't start ringing bells well get ready for more.

The conference was a joke, it showed five actual games, two are multi-plat (watch dogs and D3), two are rehashes (infamous and killzone) and one is a random game called knack. There was a move game that has you wagglan around building pieces of dung to make a human, and a totally not real demo of people pulling strings on puppets.

They revealed fairly heavy online functions, including streaming capabilities and playing the game while downloading. These two offerings are going to be very tech heavy, hell just streaming WoW and trying to play is laggy enough, better yet a game like BF4. They also require extremely fast internet to actually get anywhere, which half the world does not have.

Various real time scenes were shown, including a year old tech demo from Unreal and Square. Honestly, we need to see games. Confirming that there is no backwards compatibility is a kick in the guts, and means those games you just bought are now useless unless you feel like constantly switching consoles. They also give the vita another kick by saying its useless and can now only "stream" ps4 games.

Honestly, this PS4 has interesting tech and ideas, but was just executed so poorly you can tell its a rush job. Expect $5xx price tag and a release at the end of the year with no games.
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Five games?

Killzone Shadow Fall
inFamous Second Son
The Witness
Destiny
Diablo III
Knack
Deep Down(working title)
Drive Club
Unnamed Media Molecule game

"...five games..."

Also, please cite where Facebook was required or needed to sign-in. Please. Floor is yours.

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[quote name='Tweaky Nippleton' timestamp='1361420534' post='595533794']
Five games?

Killzone Shadow Fall
inFamous Second Son
The Witness
Destiny
Diablo III
Knack
Deep Down(working title)
Drive Club
Unnamed Media Molecule game

"...five games..."

Also, please cite where Facebook was required or needed to sign-in. Please. Floors is yours.
[/quote]seriously. i don't think humanz really watched the stream today

he's gone to every thread about the stream and spread fud about how there will be no games and how the conference was crap
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[quote][font=Georgia, Times,][size=4]"Why do you care?", jokes Shuhei Yoshida, president of Sony's Worldwide Studios.[/size][/font][/quote]

I like how Sony is keeping up their "@&#! You" Mentality. This reminds me of the "people will get a second job to buy it" talk about the PS3. Why do we care? I dunno, you're only announcing the next big generation of your platform. Maybe we'd like to see it?

Just keep the whole reveal until later and show us the whole system instead of this piece by piece deal.

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Ignoring the obvious troll, looks like PS4 will support 4k resolution. Just look at this image from Killzone Shadow Fall

[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8374/8492669883_a633ed04fa_o.jpg[/img]
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actually the PS4 is very nice,with some nice nifty features, but I know the new xbox is going to destroy this thing. I mean,if there wasn't xbox I would definitely pick up a PS4. I bought a PS3 first before I bought an Xbox360,but I ended up liking the Xbox360 better,from the controller,to xbox live. I still use both today,but mostly the xbox.

and whats really weird is that sony said they would let Microsoft announce their console first,then out of no where they decide they want to show off the PS4. then they don't even show the console,meaning they weren't ready to announce this thing,but they were pressured to for some odd reason.

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[quote name='vcfan' timestamp='1361421475' post='595533818']
actually the PS4 is very nice,with some nice nifty features, but I know the new xbox is going to destroy this thing. I mean,if there wasn't xbox I would definitely pick up a PS4. I bought a PS3 first before I bought an Xbox360,but I ended up liking the Xbox360 better,from the controller,to xbox live. I still use both today,but mostly the xbox.

and whats really weird is that sony said they would let Microsoft announce their console first,then out of no where they decide they want to show off the PS4. then they don't even show the console,meaning they weren't ready to announce this thing,but they were pressured to for some odd reason.
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the issue there tho is the Next Xbox has the same specs as the PS4 just different OS

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[quote name='notuptome2004' timestamp='1361421908' post='595533826']
the issue there tho is the Next Xbox has the same specs as the PS4 just different OS
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Rumoured specs are actually worse.
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Why didn't we actually see it? may be they haven't finalized the industrial design and probably some specs yet (notice how RAM got doubled from the rumors).
[quote name='vcfan' timestamp='1361421475' post='595533818']
actually the PS4 is very nice,with some nice nifty features, but I know the new xbox is going to destroy this thing. I mean,if there wasn't xbox I would definitely pick up a PS4. I bought a PS3 first before I bought an Xbox360,but I ended up liking the Xbox360 better,from the controller,to xbox live. I still use both today,but mostly the xbox.

and whats really weird is that sony said they would let Microsoft announce their console first,then out of no where they decide they want to show off the PS4. then they don't even show the console,meaning they weren't ready to announce this thing,but they were pressured to for some odd reason.
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How do you know nextBox will be "better" though? We don't know anything yet (although compared to PS4 stuff shown today, MS rumors are [i]better)[/i].

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[quote name='DPyro' timestamp='1361422039' post='595533830']
Rumoured specs are actually worse.
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http://www.vgleaks.com/world-exclusive-durango-unveiled-2/ they are narly the same

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[quote name='humanz.' timestamp='1361418102' post='595533726']... including a tie-in WITH FACEBOOK just so you can actually sign-in to the damn console...[/quote]
I'm sure 99% of your post is FUD and hate for Sony, but if the above is not part of that 99% then I'll be seriously disappointed. I hate FaceBook and refuse to use it despite all the odd looks I get from people for not being on there and a console will not be the reason I sign up.

So here's the hoping you misquoted or took something out of context when you wrote that.

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[quote name='notuptome2004' timestamp='1361422227' post='595533840']
[url="http://www.vgleaks.com/world-exclusive-durango-unveiled-2/"]http://www.vgleaks.c...ngo-unveiled-2/[/url] they are narly the same
[/quote]the only main difference (which is in Sony's favor btw) is the PS4 is using GDDR5 ram vs nextbox just using DDR3

[quote name='zeke009' timestamp='1361422401' post='595533844']
I'm sure 99% of your post is FUD and hate for Sony, but if the above is not part of that 99% then I'll be seriously disappointed. I hate FaceBook and refuse to use it despite all the odd looks I get from people for not being on there and a console will not be the reason I sign up.

So here's the hoping you misquoted or took something out of context when you wrote that.
[/quote]don't worry, it's pure FUD
i don't believe they even mentioned Facebook at the conference

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You're not going to be forced to use FB or Twitter or anything else.

You'll be able to sign into facebook and share stuff but it isn't going to be mandatory.

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[quote name='Brando212' timestamp='1361422496' post='595533846']
the only main difference (which is in Sony's favor btw) is the PS4 is using GDDR5 ram vs nextbox just using DDR3

don't worry, it's pure FUD
i don't believe they even mentioned Facebook at the conference
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Now I'm wondering if you didn't watch the conference..

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[quote name='humanz.' timestamp='1361423347' post='595533870']
Now I'm wondering if you didn't watch the conference..[/quote]well like i said in another thread, i only got to see like half of the stream, hence the "I don't believe"

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[quote name='humanz.' timestamp='1361423347' post='595533870']
Now I'm wondering if you didn't watch the conference..
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Still waiting for that citation showing where it's required.
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[quote name='humanz.' timestamp='1361423347' post='595533870']
Now I'm wondering if you didn't watch the conference..
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Where in that photo does it say "Facebook" is required? All that pictures says is they support facebook and ustream on the playstation network.

[img]http://thelosangelesbeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/straws.jpg[/img]

Here ya go, you are probably getting low. Or maybe you can barrow some from Dot Matrix, I just gave him a whole bunch! :)

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[quote name='humanz.' timestamp='1361423347' post='595533870']
Now I'm wondering if you didn't watch the conference..
[/quote]

Do you even own a PS3? The ability to post stuff to Facebook is already a feature. Any mention of it for PS4 is nothing new and has nothing to do with how you sign into PSN.

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i like how humanz only replied to me when i said i didn't believe facebook was mentioned in the conference but ignored all the other posts proving his ranting to be fud

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[quote name='Brando212' timestamp='1361423829' post='595533880']
i like how humanz only replied to me when i said i didn't believe facebook was mentioned in the conference but ignored all the other posts proving his ranting to be fud
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it's all good

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[quote name='notuptome2004' timestamp='1361422227' post='595533840']
[url="http://www.vgleaks.com/world-exclusive-durango-unveiled-2/"]http://www.vgleaks.c...ngo-unveiled-2/[/url] they are narly the same
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No they're not. If the rumored xbox 3 specs end up true, then the ps4 has a 50% advantage in gpu power. That's not minor in the least.

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