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Posted 22 February 2013 - 15:30

Yes -- this is from January

CORVALLIS, OR - A man tattooed his name on the vaginal area of a 15-year-old girl while carrying on an illegal sexual relationship with the girl, a detective said in a sworn affidavit.

Matthew Abram Rader, 30, faces charges of third degree rape and sodomy; second degree online corruption of a minor; and a count of using a child in display of sexually explicit conduct.

The victim told police Rader gave her three tattoos - a butterfly with a skull on her neck, plus his name and a clover near her vagina - for her 15th birthday. Police think that means Rader and the girl started having sex when she was 14, according to the probable cause affidavit filed in Benton County Circuit Court.

However, the victim also told police she never told Rader her true age.

The investigation started in December 2012. Police interviewed the victim and reviewed dozens of pages of sexually explicit messages between her and Rader.

At one point, a detective assumed control of the victim's Facebook account with her permission and began communicating with Rader.

The detective, posing as the victim, asked Rader about nude photos the victim remembered Rader taking of her with a cell phone.

"Hey I was wondering if you still have those pics you took of me with your old cell phone???" the detective wrote. "Do you look at them often???"

The next day, Rader replied: "I don't have 'em or I would ... I need more."

"What kind of pics do you want???" the detective, posing as the girl, wrote back.

"I want full body pics, faces pics. I wanna see your nipples and MY (vagina) baby," Rader replied, according to the affidavit. "After all ... my name IS on it."

Police took Rader into custody January 2, 2013. He has entered pleas of not guilty to all the charges against him.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 15:40

Disgusting. This guy should get an express pass to the needle chair.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 15:44

Did the officer pull a Harbinger -- "Assuming Control"

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 15:45

Disgusting. This guy should get an express pass to the needle chair.

You missed the part where she did NOT tell her her correct age?

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 15:49

You missed the part where she did NOT tell her her correct age?


Well the guy is 30 ...

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 15:51

You missed the part where she did NOT tell her her correct age?


Are you seriously suggesting that this guy could not tell the difference between a 14 year old and an 18 year old? And don't you think that if her age was even remotely in question, that he should have asked?

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 15:53

You missed the part where she did NOT tell her her correct age?


I agree with the above posters, he could tell her age range. Question is if this guy victimized any more teens.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 15:54

Are you seriously suggesting that this guy could not tell the difference between a 14 year old and an 18 year old? And don't you think that if her age was even remotely in question, that he should have asked?


Exactly.

Even by the Golden Rule, she should be 22. C'mon, really.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 15:55

I knew plenty of 18 year olds that barely look 15, and he did ask her, SHE LIED. :/


And no, the law says 17 is age of consent, screw your theoretical ethics. "Golden Rule"

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 16:04

Are you seriously suggesting that this guy could not tell the difference between a 14 year old and an 18 year old? And don't you think that if her age was even remotely in question, that he should have asked?

Have you seen teenagers lately? It can be very very hard to distinguish a 15 year old from 18/19 year olds.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 16:04

If they wanted, they could throw the book at him and get away with it probably. In Oregon - the law clearly outlines what constitutes underage activity sexually and not. Chapter 163 which is found here is fairly large and indepth. In Oregon, age of consent is 18. Even at that - if you are mentally incapacitated, challenged or otherwise 'not there' mentally it applies to any age.

Not a very smart person though in the least - tatooed his name then denies it.

You can debate whether he believed any lies she spoke about her age, but the bottom line is, he ignored any ideas in his mind that she was underage. Aside from that though, he probably knew anyway but didn't care. (Use my power of an adult to scare the girl so she won't tell) type of thing. Sadly, it happens a lot around the U.S. but is never reported. :no:

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 16:11

Pics or it never happened ! :shifty:


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Posted 22 February 2013 - 16:13

If they wanted, they could throw the book at him and get away with it probably. In Oregon - the law clearly outlines what constitutes underage activity sexually and not. Chapter 163 which is found here is fairly large and indepth. In Oregon, age of consent is 18. Even at that - if you are mentally incapacitated, challenged or otherwise 'not there' mentally it applies to any age.

Not a very smart person though in the least - tatooed his name then denies it.

You can debate whether he believed any lies she spoke about her age, but the bottom line is, he ignored any ideas in his mind that she was underage. Aside from that though, he probably knew anyway but didn't care. (Use my power of an adult to scare the girl so she won't tell) type of thing. Sadly, it happens a lot around the U.S. but is never reported. :no:

This is why the "think of the children" law is so ****ed up.

The girl lied about her age, but there's no consequence. The man believed in the girl who told the truth can be (potentially) put on sexual offenders list.

I guess for now on, every teenager should carry an ID card to prove their age. It's sad the law doesn't punish lying.

Are you seriously suggesting that this guy could not tell the difference between a 14 year old and an 18 year old? And don't you think that if her age was even remotely in question, that he should have asked?

*insert obligatory RTFA

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 16:16

I knew plenty of 18 year olds that barely look 15, and he did ask her, SHE LIED. :/


And no, the law says 17 is age of consent, screw your theoretical ethics. "Golden Rule"


16 in some states.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 16:17

Have you seen teenagers lately? It can be very very hard to distinguish a 15 year old from 18/19 year olds.


Doesn't really matter a 30 yo man should know better. Even if she was looking 18 she was still borderline for him and he should have asked and even i would say meet the parents before going further.

If the guy would be in the low 20ies then it would be fine morally speaking imo (minus the stupid tattoo).