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#16 OP ACTIONpack

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 00:46

I will mostly be doing coding html and adobe products aka Photoshop, InDesign, illustrator and Dreamweaver. With that said, it will be using it as a day to day thing and will not be getting a new one in 3 to 4 years so I need it to last and perform in that time. I would buy a Windows Laptop but can't really find anything that is made very well. It seem like they don't put much work in the design and feel of it like the MacBook Pro.

The only one I like is the Dell XPS 15 looks a lot like the MacBook.


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Posted 24 February 2013 - 00:53

It really doesn't matter what you get since CS is available for both. The best buy for the money is rMBP (I believe anyway). Not everyone can afford a MBP or see the need to spend that much. Personally, I'd rather have Windows 7.

#18 vcfan

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 00:58

When did you use one last? I remember lots of complaints about general UI performance when they first came out, but there have been a lot of OS updates since then.


the question is,when did you use one? im telling you its laggy. some of my colleagues have them. it has nothing to do with updates,they have the latest version. apple even released a safari update to make it "less laggy". but when you resize windows,even the cursor lags behind the window. use mission control.laggy as hell. this is a fact.

#19 Jolo

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 01:00

RIght now I have a Dell XPS 15 (L502x).

This is muy third Dell. The first was an 2006 Inspiron 6000 with an Intel Pentium M processor, and later the first gen, 2008 XPS 15 Model.

Problems like this are the reasons that I will never buy another Dell. Now is summer in Chile and this fan on-fan off problem is driving me crazy. And the other old models have the same issue.
http://en.community....t/19442104.aspx

There are so many issues and negative points, like:

- Lack of driver/BIOS updates (even with Windows 8)
- Bad quality plastics

Consider look for a HP.

Jolo.

#20 Stetson

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 01:04

the question is,when did you use one? im telling you its laggy. some of my colleagues have them. it has nothing to do with updates,they have the latest version. apple even released a safari update to make it "less laggy". but when you resize windows,even the cursor lags behind the window. use mission control.laggy as hell. this is a fact.


I haven't used one long term, just played with them in the stores. I wasn't saying that there isn't lag, I was just wondering because you said you had used one. A lot of your argument seemed to be based around gaming performance which isn't what the OP is looking for.

As far as suggestions for the OP, I'm not really sure. Don't go with a Mac 'just because' or with a Windows machine 'just because'. It sounds like you're already used to working with Windows so if you find a Windows machine that suits your needs and gets good reviews then go for it. Personally I haven't yet found a Windows notebook with a trackpad that's truly as usable as Apple's. The Thinkpad Trackpoint is probably my second favorite.

On the Windows side of things I would probably lean towards a Thinkpad. They have a lot of the same build quality and fit-and-finish as the Macbook line, the problem is that it's kind of hard to find them in stores to try out in person.

http://www.lenovo.co.../t-series/t530/

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 02:05

I haven't used one long term, just played with them in the stores. I wasn't saying that there isn't lag, I was just wondering because you said you had used one. A lot of your argument seemed to be based around gaming performance which isn't what the OP is looking for.

As far as suggestions for the OP, I'm not really sure. Don't go with a Mac 'just because' or with a Windows machine 'just because'. It sounds like you're already used to working with Windows so if you find a Windows machine that suits your needs and gets good reviews then go for it. Personally I haven't yet found a Windows notebook with a trackpad that's truly as usable as Apple's. The Thinkpad Trackpoint is probably my second favorite.

On the Windows side of things I would probably lean towards a Thinkpad. They have a lot of the same build quality and fit-and-finish as the Macbook line, the problem is that it's kind of hard to find them in stores to try out in person.

http://www.lenovo.co.../t-series/t530/


I do find the MacBook Pro track pad to be the best but will not be using it because I can't really do much in the drawing and illustration part with one which is why I always bring a mouse with me.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 02:29

Ok, first of all it's entirely your choice so don't let my opinion sway you too far! If you're going to be doing fairly heavy graphics work I would recommend a Windows 8 laptop with about 8GB RAM, at least a processor in Intel's i5 line (preferably ivy bridge however the processor won't even be working hard because of the nature of your work), a strong GPU (if you have to sacrifice other parts for a better GPU then do it!) and depending on your setup either have a 320/500GB SSD or a 1TB HDD and ~250GB SSD in the DVD bay (or wherever).

Having worked with the rMPB I can honestly say it is not good for graphics work. The GPU is already carving up trying to push out the high resolution and couple that with CS it becomes a lag and unresponsive mess (in OSX at least- Windows 8 on it performs really well but I wouldn't advise installing it in there until MS release the DPI scaling patch!)

Hope that helps! PM me if you want any more advice!

#23 mrp04

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 02:40

Seriously if you're going to struggle paying for it then don't buy it. They are a luxury item and have negligible (if even) utility over a ~$1200 Windows laptop. Is having a higher resolution screen and a bit thinner laptop REALLY worth $1000 extra? A laptop with 1920x1080 should suit you just fine for graphics work. I'm sure you can find a quad-core windows laptop with 16GB RAM and a SSD for $1200 if you shop around (and upgrade the RAM yourself, probably the SSD, too).

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 03:19

The only thing that seems to be comparable from Dell filtering the specs and only about $100 cheaper is about the same as the stock 13" rMBP:

http://www.dell.com/...ps-13-l321x-mlk

Less powerful processor but more space on the SSD, will sure to have bloat since it is from Dell, and lower resolution. How exactly are Macbook Pro's overpriced again? $100 difference is not THAT MUCH for everybody to be yelling at Apple for being overpriced. They do not have dozens of trials and bloat on their computers, and have different build quality vs Dell and others.

#25 .Markus

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 03:35

Got a retina MBP myself, and considering I've been using pretty much all different kinds of dedicated windows laptops, this one takes the cake. Used to be an avid Sony Vaio fan before, but got fed up with the sometimes iffy build quality.
I haven't noticed any real lag, that's mentioned by someone earlier. Actually, it's been flying through anything I've been throwing at it....

#26 CJEric

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 04:02

Have you considered a Chromebook Pixel?

*j/k* ;)

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 05:07

The only thing that seems to be comparable from Dell filtering the specs and only about $100 cheaper is about the same as the stock 13" rMBP:

http://www.dell.com/...ps-13-l321x-mlk

Less powerful processor but more space on the SSD, will sure to have bloat since it is from Dell, and lower resolution. How exactly are Macbook Pro's overpriced again? $100 difference is not THAT MUCH for everybody to be yelling at Apple for being overpriced. They do not have dozens of trials and bloat on their computers, and have different build quality vs Dell and others.


I would have to get a 15" version.

http://www.dell.com/...c=us&l=en&s=dhs

#28 xWhiplash

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 05:14

I would have to get a 15" version.

http://www.dell.com/...c=us&l=en&s=dhs


Dell's are good laptops. That one looks good.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 19:53

I just got a new MacBook Pro with Retina from Best Buy. Save about $300 going through them instead of Apple. $2098 with taxes!

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 19:56

I'd say retina MBP, although it's a shame you can't wait until the 2nd gen ones :(