Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0

Oakland (Calif.) citizens policing own streets

15 posts in this topic

Posted

I hope they have some assault rifles to handle those roving gangs. :laugh:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

The solution is to raise taxes to pay for adequate education (to prevent the social issues that lead to crime), police patrols (to deter crime) and detectives (to catch criminals). That means people have to stop voting for politicians who promise unsustainable tax cuts and to instead start voting for those willing to take the tough steps necessary to address the problem. The last thing the US needs is more cities becoming gangland slums like Detroit.

Vigilantism is not the answer.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

Oakland is right across the bay from San Francisco.

You say that like it just recently moved there. :laugh:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

The solution is to raise taxes to pay for adequate education (to prevent the social issues that lead to crime), police patrols (to deter crime) and detectives (to catch criminals). That means people have to stop voting for politicians who promise unsustainable tax cuts and to instead start voting for those willing to take the tough steps necessary to address the problem. The last thing the US needs is more cities becoming gangland slums like Detroit.

Vigilantism is not the answer.

California has some of the highest taxes already and throwing more money at education hasn't done much. It's the culture that looks down on education which needs to change for there to be any effect.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

California has some of the highest taxes already and throwing more money at education hasn't done much. It's the culture that looks down on education which needs to change for there to be any effect.

I'd be interested to find out how high taxes there are in relation to other countries. According to this Oakland has a sales tax rate of 9% but I don't know how that compares to VAT in the EU, which is typically around 20%. Is it just a like-for-like comparison (9% vs 20%) or are there other factors that I'm unaware of? California might have high taxes compared to other states but as far as I'm aware they're still relatively low in comparison to European countries.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

Vigilantism is not the answer.

Hey, it worked for Charles Bronson. :huh:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

Im surprised at this being news. A lot of neighborhoods are now like this.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

Im surprised at this being news. A lot of neighborhoods are now like this.

Tell me about it.

When I was younger the farm community I grew up in had an organized citizens patrol. Cops only worked 6AM to 10PMish, and the nearest State Police post was 15 miles. & only had 2 cars to patrol the southern half of the county all the way to Ohio.

Gangs from Detroit etc. figured the country folks would be easy pickings. Wrong! Cops & SP told us to do what we had to do & they'd mop up the mess.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

That's the American way, anyway. If you want something done right, do it yourself.

1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

^ I thought the 'American way' was to sue everybody. :p

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

I'd be interested to find out how high taxes there are in relation to other countries. According to this Oakland has a sales tax rate of 9% but I don't know how that compares to VAT in the EU, which is typically around 20%. Is it just a like-for-like comparison (9% vs 20%) or are there other factors that I'm unaware of? California might have high taxes compared to other states but as far as I'm aware they're still relatively low in comparison to European countries.

That's just sales tax you are quoting. That doesn't include taxes taken out of peoples pay cheques and a whole host of other taxes. Also that doesn't include the corporate tax rate, of which America has the highest :-

Today, the combined U.S. corporate tax rate stands at 39.3 percent. That means America now has the highest statutory corporate income tax rate in the world

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

That's just sales tax you are quoting. That doesn't include taxes taken out of peoples pay cheques and a whole host of other taxes. Also that doesn't include the corporate tax rate, of which America has the highest

While the US has one of the highest corporate tax rates on paper the amount paid is actually less than other countries due to various deductions and accounting practices. As for the other taxes, most of them are lower also. So again, while California may have higher taxes in comparison to the rest of the US they're still low in relation to other developed countries.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

^ I thought the 'American way' was to sue everybody. :p

That's the bad American Way. :D

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posted

snapback.pngDocM, on Yesterday, 00:44, said:

Oakland is right across the bay from San Francisco.

You say that like it just recently moved there. :laugh:

I think he's assuming that we all flunked geography. :laugh:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.