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#46 JaredFrost

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Posted 02 March 2013 - 23:32

if your BMI registers as obese ... accounting muscle mass or not... YOU ARE OBESE ... I hate fat children... what is the point ? your life has pretty much been ruined normally thanks to bad parenting ...

gah seriously one of my pet peeves is people not accepting that they or their child is FAT... they are so lazy they cannot even be bothered to open their eyes let alone get of the couch .. walking to the fridge and back or walking to school is not active .. grrr *sorry for my odd rant*


Bad parenting or not, why put so much effort and thought into how you feel about someone else being fat? why do you even care, it's someone else it has no barring on you
It sounds to me like you're hating on yourself and trying to shift blame of your problems to your parents, if that's so, your life is only ruined if you give up and blame other people
and never try.

And while generally and technically true, if according to the BMI scale you're obese, you are, but are you unhealthly? that's the difference, the BMI scale doesn't distinguish between fat and lean mass
That's where the flaw in the BMI scale lies, according to the BMI scale Hugh Jackman in the Wolverine movie was overweight, add another 20lbs of muscle and he's obese.


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Posted 02 March 2013 - 23:46

Bad parenting or not, why put so much effort and thought into how you feel about someone else being fat? why do you even care, it's someone else it has no barring on you
It sounds to me like you're hating on yourself and trying to shift blame of your problems to your parents, if that's so, your life is only ruined if you give up and blame other people
and never try.

And while generally and technically true, if according to the BMI scale you're obese, you are, but are you unhealthly? that's the difference, the BMI scale doesn't distinguish between fat and lean mass
That's where the flaw in the BMI scale lies, according to the BMI scale Hugh Jackman in the Wolverine movie was overweight, add another 20lbs of muscle and he's obese.


I shall address in reverse order... the obese question ... YES ...it does you are just as likly to have a heart attack from being to muscly ... having more muscle is not a benefit .... as I said OBESE is the issue not over weight BMI is touch and go ... I am 6ft5 and way 215 pounds I am technically over weight but I go to the gym.. train 3 times a week and keep my self fit with my personal trainer and work out routine ... my body fat is small... now I still eat like a pig.. but I am fit.. my blood pressure is perfect and I have no related issues and I have always been ideal weight for my build...

being obese is a large jump from over weight, I have no issue with my parents but I do have issues with the decline of the human race.. why is tons of money a year spent on treatment of health issues relating to obesity when the problem can be solved by simply putting down the fork...II get some people have other issues thats fine ... but lets talk about the majority which do not.. why should I not be mad? it is sadly my problem .. it does have barring .... I sadly cannot go into why as I am sure I will be chased off this site with pitch forks and fire... but one of the reasons is in my country, they take the tax payers money... get sick ? ok cool go to the hospital or local doctor ... heart hurts because you wont even try (all i ask is they try with ... I mean a valid attempt) then stay at home and be quiet.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 00:01

<snippidy snip>

Remember muscle is denser than fat, so 20lbs of muscle wont have the same affect as 20lbs of fat does on the body, being obese because of muscle
doesn't have the same affect as it does because of fat, EDIT: there are tipping points for both obviously when it's just bad all around.

I agree with you in the public healthcare sense, while it is a problem in Canada too, and they don't always push to treat the cause, but I suspect a lot of doctors do
But there isn't really much anyone can do to force them without going all Hitler on people, you can try to educate, which is only half of the battle when all the wrong
foods are cheap and the right ones are expensive.

We're kind of trailing off here though, so it's probably best we agree to disagree on some things and agree on others.