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#16 francescob

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 15:11

No, previously they sold both 1 liense and 3 license versions, they have not crippled anything, just removed the 3 license version.

Previously they were selling a 1-PC OEM license and a 3-PC Retail license. The current license allows only 1 PC but it's a retail license, not OEM: it's not tied to new hardware. They may have phased out the other licenses but the remaining one has been changed to Retail so I don't see why they shouldn't be considered at the same level.

your example sort of fails on a few important details though. the MS 5 users license can be used by multiple people on 5 computers at once, by 5 different people. the Apple license you compare it with is per person.

It could even allow an infinite number of users but why should I care? It's not like you can do group buying with that. Does that justify everybody else have to pay much more just because Microsoft thinks it's cool to let a 5 years old Timmy that would have very likely just as content with Wordpad have their own Word, Excel or Powerpoint license? It may be better for families but it sucks for many other people.

there's nothing backwards about this, just different ways, and for most people the MS version makes more sense, for those that the 365 license don't then the device license makes more sense.

And while they previously had a 3 device license, (it was actually 3 devices 1 person if you read the license correctly) it was very impractical insofar as reinstalling and such goes.

I think it's pretty backwards when it forces everybody to pay more, before I only needed a license for 3 computers, now I need to either buy 2-3 licenses or pay the equivalent years of Office 365. There may be of course cases where the new licensing could be more convenient but there are tons of people who are going to get screwed with this new pricing scheme, people who just wanted a single office license to use on their personal devices like most people do with commercial software. Also even if the license was impractical (I actually never had problems reactivating it after every computer upgrade) they could have used the same system they use for office 365 on normal office licenses so that wouldn't be a problem.

Also the Vista thing was an OEM license and that's how OEM licenses are supposed and always was supposed to work.

The title of the page was clear: "News: Revision to Windows Vista retail licensing terms". It wasn't the OEM, it was the retail one (additional source: here), if it was just the OEM version I doubt anybody would have really cared.


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Posted 07 March 2013 - 15:24

Previously they were selling a 1-PC OEM license and a 3-PC Retail license. The current license allows only 1 PC but it's a retail license, not OEM: it's not tied to new hardware. They may have phased out the other licenses but the remaining one has been changed to Retail so I don't see why they shouldn't be considered at the same level.


No, the PKC edition was a regular 1 user retail version.

#18 francescob

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 15:34

No, the PKC edition was a regular 1 user retail version.

"Each Product Key Card allows one user to activate one Office 2010 suite on one preloaded PC."
"The Office Product Key Card can only be installed on one PC. If you ever need to reinstall Office you can do so on the same PC on which Office was originally installed."
Sounds like OEM (technically upgrade from OEM) to me :wacko:. It's tied to the machine where the OEM version of office was preinstalled so it only works as an OEM license.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 12:40

It's not OEM since firstly it's not provided with the OEM computer, it's sold retail, and MS and not the OEM partner provides product support.

and technically MS allows you to install it on non pre-loaded computers as well. May somewhat vary by region. but even where they say no, they will let you if you as and they provide the download for anyone so it doesn't need to be pre-loaded.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 16:33

Definite step backwards. Most people buy office for word, excel and maybe PowerPoint. Which is why in my experience most of my customers bought the "Home and Student" version of Office. In the 2010 version for $130 you could install that on 3 different machines (at the same time). Now with the 2013 version you can only install it on 1.

I don't care if they now let you "transfer the license every 90 days", still a large step backwards.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 23:38

problem is most people abused the 3 install license as a family license and as a 3 user license, it was never a 3 user license, it was a 1 user 3 computers license.

Most people actually use the office on only one of their computers, if they need it on others the web apps are sufficient. and for a family multi user situation which is what most people illegaly used the 3 license version as, the 5 user license now is a better deal.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 01:24

Office 365 subscription would be a no brainer if MS actually released a new version of Office every year.

Just out of curiosity. If I were to subscribe to Office 365, and cancel my subscription would my Office installs stop working? I'd like to know both:
1) Do I technically lose licensing when my Office 365 subscription expires?
2) Even if my subscription expires, will my Office installations still work?

I might be more tempted to upgrade when the new Office for Mac comes out. Sucks that now the Home and Student versions are only 1 PC installs. Previous Home and Student versions for Mac and Windows were 3 and 5 installs.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 02:17

Office 365 subscription would be a no brainer if MS actually released a new version of Office every year.

yeah, MS most likely produce new version of Office every 3 or 4 years instead,
exception: Office 2000 - XP - 2003

1) Do I technically lose licensing when my Office 365 subscription expires?

if you're not renewing it, yes you'll lose the license.

2) Even if my subscription expires, will my Office installations still work?

it goes to read-only mode, no saving or editing possible.
there still unconfirmed rumor on how MS would deal with Office's SkyDrive when Office subscription are expired.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 04:12

Thanks for the reply. Would there be any issues with Office installations from a single 365 sub to family member computers? I would want to install on my Wife's mac, and the family PC downstairs. Would they be prompted for my password continuously?