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Already is at the company, however It's the customers who go to the establishment in the first place that gives them the ability to do it. So unless your not going into a restaurant anymore because of the practice it wouldn't matter how mad i was at the company. Therefore a repeating cycle. Employees can only change so much when the customers are the ones who won't help fight with their wallets. Tips or not, customers help the companies screw the employees.

It doesn't matter whether anything will change or not, what matters is that it is the company's responsibility to pay the wage; not the customer's. Therefore any anger over crap wages must be directed at the company, not customers.

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This above is correct ^^ everyone else is wrong and probably never had a job salarie based on tips.

mmm....so your saying a pizza delivery person should be paid $47 per hour. That's roughly $95,000 per year.

Might have to start delivering pizza part time :rofl:

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I would have let him keep one of the 85 pizzas instead.

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no tip it's his job.. if he plated them up for me and served them well, that's another story

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My wife and I went out to eat the other night. The service was so bad that we did not give the waitress a tip, something we almost never do. My wife was adamant about it. She is a quiet person but she let her displeasure be known.

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mmm....so your saying a pizza delivery person should be paid $47 per hour. That's roughly $95,000 per year.

Might have to start delivering pizza part time :rofl:

wtf? This is what you said and now I'm going to turn it into something different&backwards /boom /thud /wtf

does anyone understand that his only income is tips. A job salary based on tips.

Your paying for the gas, car maintenance and income. Some places pay for some of that, others don't. varies

Sometimes pizza boys don't always break even. /care? /no?

Most pizza drivers don't have newer vehicles that need less maintenance. /look around

A waitress/waiter is not the same situation, but can be similar. /they have it better

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wtf? This is what you said and now I'm going to turn it into something different&backwards /boom /thud /wtf

does anyone understand that his only income is tips. A job salary based on tips.

Your paying for the gas, car maintenance and income. Some places pay for some of that, others don't. varies

Sometimes pizza boys don't always break even. /care? /no?

Most pizza drivers don't have newer vehicles that need less maintenance. /look around

A waitress/waiter is not the same situation, but can be similar. /they have it better

Not turning anything backwards. You said everyone here was wrong except for you. You quoted the fact that he should have got a minimum $44 for delivering the pizzas (probably about an hours worth of work). Add that to the $3 hourly wage and that's $47 per hour which is roughly $95,000 per year.

If everybody is wrong and you are right and thats the wage you are expecting then I might have to start delivering Pizza part time.

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Your paying for the gas, car maintenance and income. Some places pay for some of that, others don't. varies

And that's exactly why I find delivery fees to be pathetic.

That money just goes into Dominos/Pizza Hut/Papa John's pocket. Instead it should be going towards gas, insurance, maintenance etc.

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Not turning anything backwards. You said everyone here was wrong except for you. You quoted the fact that he should have got a minimum $44 for delivering the pizzas (probably about an hours worth of work). Add that to the $3 hourly wage and that's $47 per hour which is roughly $95,000 per year.

If everybody is wrong and you are right and thats the wage you are expecting then I might have to start delivering Pizza part time.

He likely makes like $3 an hour and most of his money is earned on tips, plus he has to pay for gas in his own car. So the tip should have been much higher then that, even 3% on that bill would have been $44.

Go see how long it takes you to load up and unload 85 pizzas...

"So the tip should have been much higher then that, even 3% on that bill would have been $44."

He should of got a tip of at least $44 on THAT delivery, not every single delivery. The difference being 2 pizzas and 85 pizzas on a single order.

"(probably about an hours worth of work)" Ok, I would guess longer than an hour. But if we use 1 hour we will go for 1 mile and 85 pizzas. I imagine that took 2-5 trips, about 20-35 pizzas pre trip (max). These numbers are estimates or guesses, without the details of the situation we can only guess. I would bet this cost the pizza man money to make that delivery. He could of delivered maybe 3 other pizzas in an hours time and made some money.

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wtf? This is what you said and now I'm going to turn it into something different&backwards /boom /thud /wtf

does anyone understand that his only income is tips. A job salary based on tips.

Your paying for the gas, car maintenance and income. Some places pay for some of that, others don't. varies

Sometimes pizza boys don't always break even. /care? /no?

Most pizza drivers don't have newer vehicles that need less maintenance. /look around

A waitress/waiter is not the same situation, but can be similar. /they have it better

Serious question, if the delivery person isn't being compensated except by the generosity of the patrons then how does this person show up for work? Or better put, why did this person take the job in the first place?

I wish these false statements about the compensation of delivery people would stop.

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It is his job to deliver pizzas. So it doesn't matter if he delivers 1 pizza or 5 million. He shouldn't get tips as a standard. Its up to the customer to decide. That is it.

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wow. then you should get off your lazy *** and go pick up the food yourself.

Sure, if everyone did that then the guy wouldn't even HAVE a job, is that what you want? do you want this guy to have no job? that's a much better position than not tipping someone for doing their job. /s

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Sure, if everyone did that then the guy wouldn't even HAVE a job, is that what you want? do you want this guy to have no job? that's a much better position than not tipping someone for doing their job. /s

Good to know you have such a great understanding of context. If everyone WHO DOESNT TIP does it then there wont be a problem. Do you know why? Most people DO tip.

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He likely makes like $3 an hour and most of his money is earned on tips, plus he has to pay for gas in his own car. So the tip should have been much higher then that, even 3% on that bill would have been $44.

Go see how long it takes you to load up and unload 85 pizzas...

Get a decent job then , It's NOT my fault he/she has a crappy job.

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In the UK - we don't tip. Infact, I buy most my pizzas online, and wouldn't even have any cash on me to tip even if I wanted to. Strange how different countries vary a lot on this subject. Should Doctor's get a good tip for helping you? How about bus driver's?

In all seriousness though, Can an american explain it fully to me how it works?

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In the UK - we don't tip. Infact, I buy most my pizzas online, and wouldn't even have any cash on me to tip even if I wanted to. Strange how different countries vary a lot on this subject. Should Doctor's get a good tip for helping you? How about bus driver's?

In all seriousness though, Can an american explain it fully to me how it works?

If you read all 8 pages you still wouldnt. Basically some deliver/service type jobs pay the workers a minimal $ per hour.. usually $2 or $3, which is normally ok because they will make up the difference in tips (unless you get the cheap ******* which there are plenty just here in this thread). The employer is required to pay any difference in the hourly rate if the tips do not equal minimum wage for that state. So as to your comments above.. this does not apply to all job types (Doctors, Bus Drivers, etc). Common jobs that tips are expected are (but not limited to): food delivery (pizza, chinese), barber, waitress/waiter, etc. I tip my mailman/garbage man at holidays as well. Goes a long way when I need to throw out something that normally would require me to bring to the local recycling station.

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If you read all 8 pages you still wouldnt. Basically some deliver/service type jobs pay the workers a minimal $ per hour.. usually $2 or $3, which is normally ok because they will make up the difference in tips (unless you get the cheap ******* which there are plenty just here in this thread). The employer is required to pay any difference in the hourly rate if the tips do not equal minimum wage for that state. So as to your comments above.. this does not apply to all job types (Doctors, Bus Drivers, etc). Common jobs that tips are expected are (but not limited to): food delivery (pizza, chinese), barber, waitress/waiter, etc. I tip my mailman/garbage man at holidays as well. Goes a long way when I need to throw out something that normally would require me to bring to the local recycling station.

It's not cheap to not tip someone who is doing their job.

I'm a legal secretary, should I ask for tips from the solicitors every time I finish an audio tape? Should they ask for tips from the court every time they finish dealing with a case?

Tips are entirely optional and it doesn't make you cheap not to pay a tip.

If the wage is really low and they rely on tips, then they need to try and find another job because that's not very secure, is it.. the company should pay the wage, not rely on customers to do it. You have a very strange point of view IMO.

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It's not cheap to not tip someone who is doing their job.

I'm a legal secretary, should I ask for tips from the solicitors every time I finish an audio tape? Should they ask for tips from the court every time they finish dealing with a case?

And you're probably paid a living wage. Somebody waiting tables or delivering pizzas isn't.

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