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[color=#333333]LEADING physicist and prominent atheist, Professor Lawrence Krauss, was accused of
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Kudos to Lawrence Krauss

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Reminds me of the Catholics (and Republicans in America) who are opposed to marriage equality for homosexuals but don't like to be called bigots.
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Professor Krauss, a former adviser to President Obama...
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There's the problem right there.
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[quote name='jakem1' timestamp='1363460244' post='595581388']
Reminds me of the Catholics (and Republicans in America) who are opposed to marriage equality for homosexuals but don't like to be called bigots.
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Two completely separate issues if you'd like to do more research. (I'm neither Catholic nor American, just saying.)

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[quote name='Growled' timestamp='1363485577' post='595581852']


There's the problem right there.
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How ignorant. Do you not realize this is one of the smartest men in America? Of course if Obama knows that he's going to try and utilize him.

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[quote name='Growled' timestamp='1363485577' post='595581852']
There's the problem right there.
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Huh? He was part of a science policy committee. You know science, right?


Krauss was 100% right in this case. What the hell is going on in English Unis? It seems every day Islamic groups are inviting radicals to indoctrinate students.

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Why do Muslims migrate to the west?

We had this crap from the moron before.

The crap coming so readily from his lips about the Islamic flag flying over Buckingham Palace and Downing street; that turning part of England into an Islamic state.

We already have Sharia courts and Jewish courts that deal with Muslim and Jewish problems.

I think that should not be allowed already.



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[quote name='leesmithg' timestamp='1363506882' post='595582094']
Why do Muslims migrate to the west?

We had this crap from the moron before.

The crap coming so readily from his lips about the Islamic flag flying over Buckingham Palace and Downing street; that turning part of England into an Islamic state.

We already have Sharia courts and Jewish courts that deal with Muslim and Jewish problems.

I think that should not be allowed already.
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I agree, but at least those "courts" have absolutely zero legal authority. They're nothing more than a form of arbitration.

Still, I would be happier if they were closed down.
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[quote name='FloatingFatMan' timestamp='1363510442' post='595582140']
I agree, but at least those "courts" have absolutely zero legal authority.
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For now. . .

I still think having special arbitration courts specifically for some groups is an abhorrent departure from the idea that everyone in society is equal under the law and is to follow the same rules.

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[quote name='chconline' timestamp='1363491752' post='595581942']
Two completely separate issues if you'd like to do more research. (I'm neither Catholic nor American, just saying.)
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Of course the issues are different but the approach to dismissing critics and attempting to normalise bigotry are the same.

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[quote name='compl3x' timestamp='1363510968' post='595582152']


For now. .

I still think having special arbitration courts specifically for some groups is an abhorrent departure from the idea that everyone in society is equal under the law and is to follow the same rules.
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We have all sorts of non official mediation. Refusing a group of people who choose to use one of their own is wrong. Where there would be a problem is that if someone is not happy with it and they are prevented by their community in taking action in the legal system in the court of the land.

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[quote name='Stealthy_Singh' timestamp='1363515582' post='595582200']
We have all sorts of non official mediation. Refusing a group of people who choose to use one of their own is wrong. Where there would be a problem is that if someone is not happy with it and they are prevented by their community in taking action in the legal system in the court of the land.
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Mediation in a workplace dispute or a neighbourhood disagreement is entirely different to having a religious law court set up for the sake of one particular group.

The law is useless if we simply allow anyone to set up their own systems and bypass the state. This is blatant attempt to segregate themselves away from the rest of wider society.

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[quote name='compl3x' timestamp='1363516270' post='595582210']


Mediation in a workplace dispute or a neighbourhood disagreement is entirely different to having a religious law court set up for the sake of one particular group.

law is useless if we simply allow anyone to set up their own systems and bypass the state. This is blatant attempt to segregate themselves away from the rest of wider society.
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This is a system some people choose to use before taking a dispute before the law. As long as they don't promote an action that is illegal there should be no problem. Saying it's about religion and calling it a court when it actually isn't serves no purpose.

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[quote name='compl3x' timestamp='1363456263]
Professor Krauss said he was later told by one woman who attended that she went into the lecture theatre holding hands with a male friend and pretending he was her boyfriend to be able to sit in the mixed section.[/quote]

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[quote name='Tom' timestamp='1363506008' post='595582072']
How ignorant. Do you not realize this is one of the smartest men in America? Of course if Obama knows that he's going to try and utilize him.
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He doesn't impress me much, especially after this dumb move.

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[quote name='Growled' timestamp='1363569071' post='595583380']
He doesn't impress me much, especially after this dumb move.
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So you're a supporter of segregation? Yikes.


[quote name='compl3x' timestamp='1363506339' post='595582084']

What the hell is going on in English Unis? It seems every day Islamic groups are inviting radicals to indoctrinate students.
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It's one Uni and they were banned from UCL when it was discovered what they were doing.

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[quote name='Growled' timestamp='1363569071' post='595583380']
He doesn't impress me much, especially after this dumb move.
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What the hell? Did you misunderstand the article or are you advocating gender segregation? :s :wacko: :/


^ Reading University's muslim group invited a crack-pot only a little while ago. Then when his appearance was cancelled they had the nerve to turn around and say it was cancelled, not because the speakers views are vile, but because people who might have protested his appearance may have became violent.

I think I posted it in the official religion topic.

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[quote name='compl3x' timestamp='1363582594' post='595583616']
What the hell? Did you misunderstand the article or are you advocating gender segregation? :s :wacko: :/
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He apparently stopped reading when he saw "Obama".

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[quote name='Growled' timestamp='1363569071' post='595583380']
He doesn't impress me much, especially after this dumb move.
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He didn't like that men and women were segregated so he threatened to walk out and that was a dumb move?

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[quote name='rfirth' timestamp='1363584302' post='595583642']
He apparently stopped reading when he saw "Obama".
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Right. I should have woken up to that.

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I miss the days when Science was what a Scientist (thus the name scientist) focused on.

[size=4]Here is yet another example (beside the above)...[/size]

[size=4]The amount of crap that you had to wade through P.Z. Myers blog to get to anything scientific was just unacceptable. [/size]
[size=4]That is why I dropped his blog. It's one thing to be a man of science, it's another to devote massive chunks on your blog because you are a raving anti-religious bigot. [/size]
[size=4](yeah, being an anti-religious bigot is going to help people understand science and promote it. Progressive doesn't mean intelligent). [/size]

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Being anti-segregationist isn't not anti-religious. The religion is the one at fault here, not the professor. Religions that treat any one group differently to another are the bigots.
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[quote name='FloatingFatMan' timestamp='1363591901' post='595583728']
Being anti-segregationist isn't not anti-religious. The religion is the one at fault here, not the professor. Religions that treat any one group differently to another are the bigots.
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The fact that many scientists promote Atheism instead of focusing on science already proves this wrong.

I even gave you two examples and it went over your head. I can't imagine how you could handle anything complex.

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[quote name='FloatingFatMan' timestamp='1363591901' post='595583728']
Being anti-segregationist isn't not anti-religious.
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Being segregationist is religious.

[quote]The religion is the one at fault here, not the professor. Religions that treat any one group differently to another are the bigots.[/quote]

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