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#31 MFH

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 00:31

I don't know about the processors but the motherboards should be considerably cheaper.

Where do you get that idea from?


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Posted 23 March 2013 - 00:33

Where do you get that idea from?

The voltage regulator is on the processor, the PCH is 32nm instead of 65nm.

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 00:39

Shrinking does NOT imply that it's getting cheaper...

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 00:41

Shrinking does NOT imply that it's getting cheaper...

No, we shoudl all still be using 90nm because it's so horribly cost effective.

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 01:48

No, we shoudl all still be using 90nm because it's so horribly cost effective.

I think you don't get my point: just because the may be shrinking the PCH - note that that's not even confirmed! - that doesn't mean that your hardware will get cheaper! Matter of fact: Building a 22nm fab is horribly expensive (see Rock's Law) and Intel has to re-finance the fab...

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 02:19

The bigger question is what is AMD going to do?

AMD keep releasing eight-cores processors with horrible per-core performance. I would rather buy a quad-core processor with decent per-core performance.

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 03:32

I think you don't get my point: just because the may be shrinking the PCH - note that that's not even confirmed! - that doesn't mean that your hardware will get cheaper! Matter of fact: Building a 22nm fab is horribly expensive (see Rock's Law) and Intel has to re-finance the fab...

It said 32nm, and they're already past that (note Haswell is 22nm)

at any rate, expensive motherboards are what annoys me about Intel systems so I hope it is true.

The bigger question is what is AMD going to do?

AMD keep releasing eight-cores processors with horrible per-core performance. I would rather buy a quad-core processor with decent per-core performance.

Temash, Kabini, and Kaveri are all due for release this year, and should be interesting. I don't know if they'll be able to compete or not beyond the tablets but I definately hope so.

#38 MFH

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 13:02

It said 32nm

My bad. But still: unconfirmed; doesn't imply sinking prices...

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 16:03

http://www.tomshardw...mance,3461.html
The review unfortunately says nothing about power consumption, heat or overclocking, but it does look like Haswell is another solid incremental upgrade over the previous generation. Software recompiled to take advantage of the new AVX2 and TSX instructions should see much larger gains.


According to the information there, no TSX in the unlocked K-models. Which means Intel are crippling the performance models deliberately.



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