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#16 articuno1au

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 20:24

http://www.neowin.ne...aming-keyboard/

^ I'm still very pleased with this keyboard.

Certainly worth a look :) Also, regardless if that's the keyboard for you, this is worth a look: http://www.overclock...-keyboard-guide


#17 OP dattuz

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 00:01

I have Cherry MX Blues myself, and I like them. As others have said, they're pretty loud though. They have a nice feel due to the tactile bump but you can get that with tactile switches anyway, so it isn't much of a selling point. The actuation force is worth considering, since you might like a softer or a stiffer switch. The general consensus I've seen is that Brown switches are the best blend for typing and gaming on, but if you're typing more than gaming it's worth a second thought. Despite the idea certain switches are better for gaming than others, you can game on any switch but you'll just have to get used to how it feels. However, I have heard people to say the Brown switch feels 'grainy'. Never used one so I don't know, but I have heard the criticism raised before. People I know with Brown switches seem happy enough so don't take this as concrete evidence.

The CMStorm QuickFire Rapids are extremely popular at the moment, and for good reason. They're a nice price and they're meant to be very good quality, plus they come in a lot of switch varieties. Despite being a gaming keyboard they're not overly shouty. They used to be covered in branding but the newer models aren't. The only thing is that the keycaps still aren't the most professional looking of things, but that shouldn't sway your opinion too much. If you need a numerical pad, there's the QuickFire Pro as well. The two are meant to use different OEMs and some people claim the Pro to be of a lower quality than the Rapid because of it. I can't confirm or deny either way. To me it's just a rumor.

Getting the right layout might be a problem, though. Looking online the letters seem near enough to QWERTY so if you were a touch-typist you could just buy a QWERTY board and run with it, I guess. That means you could consider Leopold keyboards as well. getDigital.de stock the FC200R keyboard and the Filco Majestouch-2. In my experience the folks at getDigital have been absolutely top-notch with their service (I've reviewed a Das Keyboard and a Matias Tactile Pro through them).

/r/MechanicalKeyboards also has the Nordic shopping guide, so it would seem you could also get a Corsair K-Series board amongst others. They're a bit more gamer-y, but again, their appearance shouldn't be too much of a problem unless you're planning to use this in a workplace. Neowin's own Tim Schiesser reviewed the K90 around this time last year and was impressed by it. That's encouraging.

In my honest opinion you'll want Brown switches as well. They're not as loud as the Blues, but they take less force to activate as well. It might be the best all-rounder for your needs.

Good luck finding the keyboard that's right for you!


Thanks for your advice. It helped me a lot in my decision.
I ordered a Filco Ninja Majestouch-2, Tenkeyless, NKR, Tactile Action, Keyboard with Cherry brown mx.
Also with red ninja wasd and esc buttons, and a lether thingy you put your wrists on when typing.

Thanks for all your help, always great to be here :)

#18 Paul Ferson

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 02:12

Thanks for your advice. It helped me a lot in my decision.
I ordered a Filco Ninja Majestouch-2, Tenkeyless, NKR, Tactile Action, Keyboard with Cherry brown mx.
Also with red ninja wasd and esc buttons, and a lether thingy you put your wrists on when typing.

Thanks for all your help, always great to be here :)


Filco boards are meant to be fantastic mate. Enjoy it! Lots and lots of people call Filco the king of the mechanical keyboard market and I hope you have a good experience with yours. I love the Ninja side-printing on the keys, so good choice. The leather wrist rests are meant to be quite nice too, though I've never used one. This thing should be good for years of service, so it's a quality investment - and also a fantastic choice, going by what I've read. (Y)

#19 Denis W.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 02:50

Corsair has two upgrades coming very soon, the K70 and K95. As you said, could be a good choice for the gamer. But as with many mechanical keyboards, they cost more.
http://www.corsair.com/k70
http://www.corsair.com/k95


Interesting, that K70. I'm not too fussed about the K60/90's dome keys for the Fx and Insert/Home/End/etc keys but I can understand why others would like to have a fully mechanical set. Keyboard lighting and a palm rest are nice plusses (the latter is easily fixable with a 3M gel pad).

Other than that, this is still a good keyboard, and only now did I just find out that they fixed the annoying repeating key issue for the K60/90. What's weird about the red switches is that these ones make no clicky feedback, yet the cheap Azio keyboard I got for a friend claims to have Cherry MX Red switches much like this yet it has clicky feedback. :ermm:

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 08:23

Hello,

I have a Rosewill Mechanical Keyboard RK-9000RE, which uses Cherry MX Red keyswitches on my home PC. Rosewill is the house brand of U.S. computer part retailer NewEgg, however, I did find the keyboard available on Amazon.Com for $75.00 USD, which may make it available to you in Sweden.

The layout of the keyboard is the standard American QWERTY and is standard size. The casing it a bit slimmer then a standard keyboards, as is often the case with gaming keyboards. The keyboard has a USB Micro-B connector on the back, and comes with both USB and PS/2 cables that are a little under 2m, I think.

There are no special features or customizations, unless you count blue LEDs for NumLock, CapsLock and ScrollLock indicators as a feature.

Like you, my main use of the keyboard has been for writing with some occasional gaming. It has been a solid performer in this regard.

Regards,

Aryeh Goretsky


#21 OP dattuz

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 10:01

Hello,

I have a Rosewill Mechanical Keyboard RK-9000RE, which uses Cherry MX Red keyswitches on my home PC. Rosewill is the house brand of U.S. computer part retailer NewEgg, however, I did find the keyboard available on Amazon.Com for $75.00 USD, which may make it available to you in Sweden.

The layout of the keyboard is the standard American QWERTY and is standard size. The casing it a bit slimmer then a standard keyboards, as is often the case with gaming keyboards. The keyboard has a USB Micro-B connector on the back, and comes with both USB and PS/2 cables that are a little under 2m, I think.

There are no special features or customizations, unless you count blue LEDs for NumLock, CapsLock and ScrollLock indicators as a feature.

Like you, my main use of the keyboard has been for writing with some occasional gaming. It has been a solid performer in this regard.

Regards,

Aryeh Goretsky


Yeah, i saw that I was possible to get one through a finnish site, these Roswell keyboards. I took a look at some reviews and in most of the reviews they compare it to Filco's keyboards when they review it, Even though they don't have it there physically to compare them head to head. I mean, they talk about Filco as it is the best of the best. But i don't know, i ordered one now and I hope it will serve me just fine :)
I read about one other guy who used a CM keyboard with brown cherry mx, who bought a Filco with brown cherry mx, and he experienced a great difference between these boards even though they both were cherry mx browns.
Sorry for not linking any sources, don't have the urge to find them again, so you will just have to trust me on this one ;)

#22 Paul Ferson

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 21:21

the cheap Azio keyboard I got for a friend claims to have Cherry MX Red switches much like this yet it has clicky feedback. :ermm:

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There's a possibility that they're knock-off Cherry MX switches. There's a known brand from /r/MechanicalKeyboards called Kailh but I didn't think they were in Azio boards. The easiest way to know would be to pull a keycap from the Azio board but if it belongs to a friend and they're happy it might not be worth the time and effort.

I read about one other guy who used a CM keyboard with brown cherry mx, who bought a Filco with brown cherry mx, and he experienced a great difference between these boards even though they both were cherry mx browns.
Sorry for not linking any sources, don't have the urge to find them again, so you will just have to trust me on this one ;)


My first thought was that it might be due to different mounting. Having double-checked it seems both boards have plate-mounted switches so why the two feel different could be anyone's guess. It might be placebo but it might be something else. Strange regardless, but you're doing your research and hopefully that means your Filco will be exactly what you've hoped for too!

#23 threetonesun

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 23:24

I read about one other guy who used a CM keyboard with brown cherry mx, who bought a Filco with brown cherry mx, and he experienced a great difference between these boards even though they both were cherry mx browns.
Sorry for not linking any sources, don't have the urge to find them again, so you will just have to trust me on this one ;)


The CoolerMaster Storem Quickfire rapid is, from what I've read, the same board as a Filco. I've heard other CM keyboards aren't as good though.

#24 TheExperiment

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 23:29

and here I'm still wishing I had a quieter keyboard than the Wave o.O

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 23:36

and here I'm still wishing I had a quieter keyboard than the Wave o.O


From what I can see, the Logitech Wave is a rubber dome keyboard. Apple's keyboards might do the trick but they lack a numerical pad. If you were interested in going mechanical you could get a linear switch like the MX Blacks and a set of O-Rings or landing pads. Something like that might deaden the sound enough for you. The MX Reds might be too light, causing you to "bottom out" more, so the MX Blacks with the stiffer spring might be a solution. If you'd like to drop lots of money on a single board there's a quiet variant of the HHKB out there. Oh, and Matias now has the Silent Pro as well. According to their marketing, those are also pretty quiet.

The CoolerMaster Storem Quickfire rapid is, from what I've read, the same board as a Filco. I've heard other CM keyboards aren't as good though.


This forum post seems to suggest the QuickFire Rapid is a CoStar-built board, which would mean it originates from the same factories as Filcos (if I'm not mistaken). The other boards in the CMStorm range are iOne-produced. For some reason iOne has this comparatively poor reputation. I know they had problems with the Scorpius M10 a few years ago, but it seems that if you get a bad rap with mechanical keyboard enthusiasts it'll take ages to be forgotten about.

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 23:40

From what I can see, the Logitech Wave is a rubber dome keyboard. Apple's keyboards might do the trick but they lack a numerical pad. If you were interested in going mechanical you could get a linear switch like the MX Blacks and a set of O-Rings or landing pads. Something like that might deaden the sound enough for you. The MX Reds might be too light, causing you to "bottom out" more, so the MX Blacks with the stiffer spring might be a solution. If you'd like to drop lots of money on a single board there's a quiet variant of the HHKB out there. Oh, and Matias now has the Silent Pro as well. According to their marketing, those are also pretty quiet.

This forum post seems to suggest the QuickFire Rapid is a CoStar-built board, which would mean it originates from the same factories as Filcos (if I'm not mistaken). The other boards in the CMStorm range are iOne-produced. For some reason iOne has this comparatively poor reputation. I know they had problems with the Scorpius M10 a few years ago, but it seems that if you get a bad rap with mechanical keyboard enthusiasts it'll take ages to be forgotten about.

Arright, thanks. I don't know when I'll feel like spending the money but I have minor ear damage so all noise annoys me (unless I wanted to hear it in the first place, anyway. :p )

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 23:44

Arright, thanks. I don't know when I'll feel like spending the money but I have minor ear damage so all noise annoys me.


I'm not going to promise you that those boards are going to be quieter, but the Apple ones might be worth a look into. They're scissor switches, but they also have very low travel for the keys so they might not make too much noise. I'm used to noisy keyboards though (I've woken people in my house up with my typing before :p ) so I don't notice them as much. If you're looking to spend very little money on a fairly quiet board, the HP KU-0316 might be worth a shout. It's that black and silver one which seems to be everywhere now. My school uses them, and for like £10 you could do much worse.

Hopefully you'll find something that works well with your ear damage. That must suck man. Sorry to hear it, too. :(

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Posted 24 March 2013 - 23:52

Hopefully you'll find something that works well with your ear damage. That must suck man. Sorry to hear it, too. :(

haha it's really not that bad honestly, I just don't like to push my luck

(plus I'm usually up pretty late)

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 01:35

I'm not going to promise you that those boards are going to be quieter, but the Apple ones might be worth a look into. They're scissor switches, but they also have very low travel for the keys so they might not make too much noise. I'm used to noisy keyboards though (I've woken people in my house up with my typing before :p ) so I don't notice them as much. If you're looking to spend very little money on a fairly quiet board, the HP KU-0316 might be worth a shout. It's that black and silver one which seems to be everywhere now. My school uses them, and for like £10 you could do much worse.

Hopefully you'll find something that works well with your ear damage. That must suck man. Sorry to hear it, too. :(


I got it home now with the wrist pad, and it works like a charm, i am used to the Stiffness of my logitech wave, but this is pretty light on the touch.. But i like it, and i think i will grow to like it even more.. I also upgraded my mouse to a mionix naos 8200, and i love it, i hade the intellimouse 3.0 and didnt want to change, but it broke and i saw this, and it works like a charm.
Anyways, thanks for the help with the keyboard, it was very helpful :)

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 01:38

I got it home now with the wrist pad, and it works like a charm, i am used to the Stiffness of my logitech wave, but this is pretty light on the touch.. But i like it, and i think i will grow to like it even more.. I also upgraded my mouse to a mionix naos 8200, and i love it, i hade the intellimouse 3.0 and didnt want to change, but it broke and i saw this, and it works like a charm.
Anyways, thanks for the help with the keyboard, it was very helpful :)


Nice man! If you want an excuse to do some more typing on it, you can submit a review in the Member Review section. Typing on it will be addictive, and if your review is awesome it could even end up on the front page of Neowin.net! Have fun with your new board. Treat it well, etc. and you'll get years of life out if without a bother. :)