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#31 +Lingwo

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 16:53

Far Cry 3 was an open-world game too, yet it had excellent graphics. The media put out for GTA5 doesn't look substantially better than GTA4, a game that was released five years ago.


Far Cry 3 did look nice but the world is nowhere near as detailed and dense as what GTAV is trying to achieve.


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Posted 02 May 2013 - 17:23

If it is coming to the PC at all. Rockstar has been very quiet about a potential PC release - too quiet.

Here is what I hope will happen, but it's just my dream.

They are very quiet about a PC version, release the game and let it sell on current consoles. Then the new consoles arrive and they do an enhanced version for PC and new consoles spring next year.

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 17:39

There was some hinting on NeoGAF about a previewer asking what they use to capture the trailer footage and wether it was from a PC build because it looked better than the console footage they just played and the Rockstar guy said that it was running on PS3/360 and is "current gen" footage.

Wonder if that was a little slip and maybe the reason for the delay was to have a next gen and/or PC build ready.

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 18:14

Very very good stuff on the link Dreamspell posted:

Preview Summary @ http://www.gtav.net/...and-screenshots


Quoting Legend's post for emphasis:

Like Skyrim, each of the protagonists’ skills in certain disciplines – shooting, driving, flying and so on – improves the more they are used. So while Franklin will start the game as the most accomplished driver and Trevor’s time in the military means he’s the best pilot, you’ll be able to redress the balance simply by playing the game. Stamina, lung capacity, strength and stealth are also tracked, and Rockstar says new tools and boosts will be unlocked as you improve.


I'm excited. I'm sold for the game. This whole graphics argument is being driven by like... one person; not sure why it even keeps getting brought up. :ermm:

They seem to be putting a lot of work into the game, and I can't wait to get my hands on it. Really like the fact that they're allowing you to play as one of the three characters too! They really seem much more engaging than the cast of GTAIV.

My only disappointment is the lack of a PC announcement. I'm really hoping with the nex-gen consoles on the way that they make a release for them as well (and PC) because otherwise, I'll be buying a Playstation 3 just for this game. (I kidd you not)

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 18:38

Very very good stuff on the link Dreamspell posted:



Quoting Legend's post for emphasis:



I'm excited. I'm sold for the game. This whole graphics argument is being driven by like... one person; not sure why it even keeps getting brought up. :ermm:

They seem to be putting a lot of work into the game, and I can't wait to get my hands on it. Really like the fact that they're allowing you to play as one of the three characters too! They really seem much more engaging than the cast of GTAIV.

My only disappointment is the lack of a PC announcement. I'm really hoping with the nex-gen consoles on the way that they make a release for them as well (and PC) because otherwise, I'll be buying a Playstation 3 just for this game. (I kidd you not)


I'm a traditional PC user, but in this case ill be getting this game on my xbox. In the xbox's case, I bought the xbox just for Mortal Kombat lol. It appears thoe Mortal Kombat may finally get a PC release soon enough.

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 19:32

I have no doubt that they will port V to PC, and since it is easier to port games between PC and next-gen consoles I don't see why they wouldn't take advantage of the new market. A current gen release in September, and a next-gen (PC, PS4, XBOX) release next year.

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 20:16

I'm excited. I'm sold for the game. This whole graphics argument is being driven by like... one person; not sure why it even keeps getting brought up. :ermm:


It's a common complaint on gaming sites, as there are numerous comments critical of the graphics over on the Blue's News topic. Personally I find it strange that people can defend the outdated graphics of a game like this yet be excited for the next generation consoles, all the while dismissing PC gamers who already have access to graphics in excess of what will be available.

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 20:52

It's a common complaint on gaming sites, as there are numerous comments critical of the graphics over on the Blue's News topic. Personally I find it strange that people can defend the outdated graphics of a game like this yet be excited for the next generation consoles, all the while dismissing PC gamers who already have access to graphics in excess of what will be available.


It's not about defending outdated graphics. Let's be realistic here: do you really think they're going to change it this late in development?

The best we can hope for is a next-gen version release with updated graphics for PC/PS4/Xthing. Even then, I honestly wouldn't hold my breath seeing as a release for PC or the next generation of consoles has yet to be announced. We can speculate until we're blue in the face, but it's all for nothing without any more details to go on.

Anyway, I'm glad they're taking steps to provide more substance to the world. GTAIV, as much as I enjoyed it, felt rather shallow. You have this awesome city to explore, but not much to do.

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 21:10

It's not about defending outdated graphics. Let's be realistic here: do you really think they're going to change it this late in development?


No. I was merely expressing my disappointment, as I've been a fan of the GTA franchise since the original game. Originally it was released on PC first but over time Rockstar has favoured consoles to the detriment of the PC, something which the developers of Saints Row and Mafia didn't do - in fact both franchises have seen much higher quality PC releases. From a narrative perspective GTA5 looks decent, it's just disappointing that the PC version—the one platform where it could really shine—is treated with such disrespect by Rockstar.

I honestly believe that GTA5 would have been a much better game—both in terms of gameplay and graphics—if it had been developed for PC simultaneously to consoles. Mafia II had great graphics for the time and was much better optimised than GTA4 - it came out later but GTA4 simply didn't scale to better hardware because of the poorly coded engine.

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 21:43

No. I was merely expressing my disappointment, as I've been a fan of the GTA franchise since the original game. Originally it was released on PC first but over time Rockstar has favoured consoles to the detriment of the PC, something which the developers of Saints Row and Mafia didn't do - in fact both franchises have seen much higher quality PC releases. From a narrative perspective GTA5 looks decent, it's just disappointing that the PC version—the one platform where it could really shine—is treated with such disrespect by Rockstar.

I honestly believe that GTA5 would have been a much better game—both in terms of gameplay and graphics—if it had been developed for PC simultaneously to consoles. Mafia II had great graphics for the time and was much better optimised than GTA4 - it came out later but GTA4 simply didn't scale to better hardware because of the poorly coded engine.


Yeah, but Mafia II has hiccups with the gameplay. This is what it comes down to overall: having not only a fantastic open world to explore, but one that is actually enjoyable. Take Skyrim for instance which many people credit as being amazing... until they realize how shallow the combat is, repetitive the missions are, and so forth. We need good stories in these vast open worlds. We need more substance, and more to do.

Otherwise, building a beautiful and empty world will only lead us to disappointment. Or worse: "HEY GUYS, WE ACTUALLY HAVE CONTENT NOW... FOR A SMALL FEE OF $14.95!" Ugh.

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 22:46

Yeah, but Mafia II has hiccups with the gameplay. This is what it comes down to overall: having not only a fantastic open world to explore, but one that is actually enjoyable. Take Skyrim for instance which many people credit as being amazing... until they realize how shallow the combat is, repetitive the missions are, and so forth. We need good stories in these vast open worlds. We need more substance, and more to do.


Mafia II had a great narrative and excellent graphics / setting but it was obviously very limited in comparison to GTA4, which was a shame. As for Skyrim, the gameplay was certainly shallow from a depth perspective—especially in comparison to something like The Witcher 2—but I found the game world and exploration quite compelling. To me, Far Cry 3 was the best to balance core gameplay with open world exploration - it certainly wasn't perfect but it redefined the genre.

We're still a long way from games that truly have depth and take full advantage of an open world setting. I think that's one of the reasons that Watch_Dogs interests me, because if the gameplay can be made as compelling and varied as the gameplay video I think it will set the standard for the genre. However, it's too early to say if that will be the case and GTA5 might still surprise people.

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 14:12

If it is coming to the PC at all. Rockstar has been very quiet about a potential PC release - too quiet.

They're always quiet about a PC release. Just like 3, Vice City, San Andreas and 4 previously.

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 14:42

You've gotta love the sense of humor from the guys in Scotland :rofl:

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 07:52

Rockstar has released 12 new images, now I've seen this storm drain before and I don't remember seeing water in it... I'm wondering if it appears after bad weather :| doubtful, but would of been cool.

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Posted 09 May 2013 - 10:07

I doubt it. I think it might just be down to the technology and the fact it looks nice.
Also if you notice, it is alot wider too.