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#31 +Audien

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 21:14

Exchange 2013 takes much more effort to install that 2010. I've been trying to get it to work for the last few weeks in a test lab and i've been setting up/managing/supporting migrations for last 4 years. So for a new "IT person" to jump in deep is a very steep learning curve. Exchange isnt difficult- its just grasping what does what etc.



Why is it more effort than 2010?


#32 S.MULLA

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 21:42

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Why is it more effort than 2010?


there's much more prep work you have to do on AD, pre-requisuites etc before you actually install. If it isnt in correct order then install will fail. And the install process is very long winded. I'm currently doing a migration form 2010 to 2013 and had to wait till yesterday for MS to release cumulative update 1 for 2013 before I could continue.

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Posted 03 April 2013 - 21:44

Youtube is a great place to learn things. Alot of good videos on there.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 23:34

Good news is that it is very intuitive. I don't think a lot of people know exchange 2013 as it is 6 months old. They might advertise desktop support but your duties might include troubleshooting mailbox/outlook issues but highly unlikely. I would state in the interview that I have never supported exchange before as it is not desktop software.

Do you do anything with exchange other than setup a user? If you do then you should know that it is not intuitive, even the setup is not intuitive (setup is not initial install).

Try setting up an exchange cluster, nope not intuitive. Try exporting pst out of exchange, not intuitive. What is a journal account, why is it needed and why would you set one up? Ever have to run a db repair, not intuitive either. Nothing about the administration of exchange is easy and intuitive. But setting up users, sure that is pretty intuitive.

As stated exchange is a mail database install. You understand what gmail and yahoo mail is, right. Well you have the GUI which talks to the backend mail server. Exchange is the backend mail server program that runs in many Microsoft based organizations. Hospitals, banks and many other organizations run exchange as their internal mail server. Having an internal mail server gives the company more control and they can give access to mailboxes to anyone else in the organization as well as have backups even after someone has deleted the mail.

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 23:53

there's much more prep work you have to do on AD, pre-requisuites etc before you actually install. If it isnt in correct order then install will fail. And the install process is very long winded. I'm currently doing a migration form 2010 to 2013 and had to wait till yesterday for MS to release cumulative update 1 for 2013 before I could continue.

The installer does everything for you? You don't have to follow those hardcore admins who want to do it via powershell first.

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 00:07

Trust me a I've seen a lot of people like that too. I want to be useful to a lot of people. Since I'm familiar with Macs, a lot of people go to me whenever something goes wrong. I want to be more open to learning new technical skills.

You might be right...That is probably why they ask if you're familiar with exchange.

This is what you do mate: :)
-Get Trials for Windows Server 2012 and Exchange Server
-Install the Hyper-V role on your Windows 8 Pro
-Create a private virtual network
-Create a VM that is a domain controller with the roles AD DS, DNS, DHCP
-Ensure your forest is at Server 2012 functional level
-Create a new VM to install Exchange 2013

This is what you need to learn to advance your career a bit
Windows Server 2008/R2/2012;
-AD DS
-DNS
-DHCP
-GPO
-WSUS
-Exchange Administration

Some resources for you:
Installing and Configuring Windows Server 2012 (use code MSDEAL if still valid for 50% discount) - http://shop.oreilly....ows-server-2012
Exchange 2013 install guide http://memphistech.net/?p=261

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 01:46

The installer does everything for you? You don't have to follow those hardcore admins who want to do it via powershell first.

There are things that you have to do prior to installing exchange. The installer does not install the iis component, that is one of the prerequisites that you do prior. Another prerequisite is to do a adprep and forrestprep on your ad server that the exchange installer does not do. If you go to install exchange without doing these things, the install will fail. None of these are needed to be done in the powershell, they are either GUI or command prompt.

#38 Riva

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 01:46

lets not forget http://www.microsoft...ualacademy.com/

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Posted 07 April 2013 - 23:40

Do you do anything with exchange other than setup a user? If you do then you should know that it is not intuitive, even the setup is not intuitive (setup is not initial install).

Try setting up an exchange cluster, nope not intuitive. Try exporting pst out of exchange, not intuitive. What is a journal account, why is it needed and why would you set one up? Ever have to run a db repair, not intuitive either. Nothing about the administration of exchange is easy and intuitive. But setting up users, sure that is pretty intuitive.

As stated exchange is a mail database install. You understand what gmail and yahoo mail is, right. Well you have the GUI which talks to the backend mail server. Exchange is the backend mail server program that runs in many Microsoft based organizations. Hospitals, banks and many other organizations run exchange as their internal mail server. Having an internal mail server gives the company more control and they can give access to mailboxes to anyone else in the organization as well as have backups even after someone has deleted the mail.

No software/server is easy to setup in cluster. Installing and setting up is mostly for an engineer not a desktop support guy.



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