jebus197 Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 So anyway I did an upgrade from Windows 7 to windows 8 (I wish I hadn't bothered, but that's another matter). However since I did this, whenever I try to delete an icon, or a file, or a folder, the icon for the item in question doesn't get deleted until I hit the refresh button. Does anyone have any ideas how to fix this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detection Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 I get that even in Win 7 sometimes, you could try a refresh of 8 if you don't have much installed yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebus197 Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 I have tons installed on a two year old system. As I said it was an upgrade from Win 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neu B Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Backup and do a fresh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebus197 Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 That's weeks of work. Forget that! It took me 3 days just to get Windows 8 looking and working the way I wanted. Reinstalling dozens of apps and all my documents and folders would take weeks too. Right now it's small but irritating bug, but it doesn't warrant major surgery of this kind. And forget about 'Windows easy Transfer' or other cr*ap like that, it never generally works as advertised. You are still left with a sh*t load of work to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circaflex Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 weeks? your doing it wrong, a fresh install should not take more than a few hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebus197 Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 And you are weeks? your doing it wrong, a fresh install should not take more than a few hours And you are on drugs mate. What have you got, two or 3 apps installed on your system? Everything else pretty much set on default?. My system is nothing like that. I spent the last 2 years using my system before upgrading to Win 8 to get it to work just the way I liked - and then maybe the last 3 weeks on and off getting Windows 8 to work the way I like too. Any half-baked oaf can install a default Windows system in under a few hours. That is not the issue in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circaflex Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 your telling me it takes week to install your apps? weeks to tweak the system? just doesnt make any sense "Reinstalling dozens of apps and all my documents and folders would take weeks too" seems pretty default to me, dozens of apps dont take weeks to install Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siah1214 Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 You obviously don't know how Windows 8 refresh works. Yes, you will have to reinstall your desktop software, however, all of your apps, settings, documents, and files will remain as they are. So unless you really ****ed stuff up, all you should have to do is reinstall software. If that takes you weeks, you need to learn to computer. Brandon H 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 And you are And you are on drugs mate. What have you got, two or 3 apps installed on your system? Everything else pretty much set on default?. My system is nothing like that. I spent the last 2 years using my system before upgrading to Win 8 to get it to work just the way I liked - and then maybe the last 3 weeks on and off getting Windows 8 to work the way I like too. Any half-baked oaf can install a default Windows system in under a few hours. That is not the issue in this case. Easy there jebus, you ask for suggestions and got them. No need to name call or accuse other members of drug use, is there? If it took me that long to set my system up it'd be imaged up to the minute, I would also install everything other than Windows (and Windows crap) on a different partition or better yet a different drive. A hdd drive crash for you sounds like a major operation, I can have my system down and up in a bout 20 minutes... but then I image my drive often and have everything stored on a different drive on the machine and backed up twice on two different usb drives. I might EVEN BE MORE CAREFUL, if it took me 2 years getting an os "just the way I liked". Brandon H 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUC_Snakeman Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 The issue is that a folder's contents are not properly auto-refreshed, when a new file/folder is created, or an existing file/folder is placed into the folder, or an existing file/folder is deleted from the folder ... right? It's a Windows 7 bug, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was happening in Windows 8 as well. I believe it has to do with the folder being included in a library, or the user is viewing a "library folder". Assuming your folder is somehow related to a library, you might try excluding some folders from the library, testing for the issue, then bringing the folders back into the library, and retesting. Oh, and post your results! I'm interested too! Regards, Jacob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circaflex Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 You obviously don't know how Windows 8 refresh works. Yes, you will have to reinstall your desktop software, however, all of your apps, settings, documents, and files will remain as they are. So unless you really ****ed stuff up, all you should have to do is reinstall software. If that takes you weeks, you need to learn to computer. which would make sense if he has tweaked it to death and done all these "customization's" possibly that is what caused the problem in the first place. siah1214 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebus197 Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 Forget it guys I'm not reinstalling my system, or spending countless hours re-imaging cr*ap, just for it sometimes to work and sometimes not to work. Please stop distracting from the topic. As I said this is a small but irritating bug, but not one I feel that warrants major reconstructive surgery, Apart from this small bug, I have my desktop and my account set up exactly the way I want it and I won't be changing it for anyone. The only thing t would consider reinstalling for is if the system broke down completely. I spent 15 years updating and reinstalling windows on maybe thousands of systems. It bores me now and I have no interest in it at all. The way you guys make it sound it's like backing up and reinstalling, or imaging a system is always 100% reliable and will always provide the solution to any given problem. Well the fact of the matter is if you really did understand technology, you would know that it isn't always 100% reliable and is not guaranteed to resolve the problem at all. It might and it might not. But it's still a hell of a lot of work to find that out. And the guy who keeps going on about 'doing a desktop refresh' if you mean hit F5, then please re-read my initial post. What exactly do you think I have been doing? Lol. This to me seems like a simple bug. I know some of you guys are keen to help and I appreciate this. But I would prefer sensible answers only please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebus197 Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 And yes my system is heavily customised, although I think 'personalised' is a better description. But no more than you would expect of someone with over 20 years experience working with a large numbers of computer clusters in my job for a major UK university. Despite this, this is not a bug I have ever come across previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detection Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Upgrades are a PITA to troubleshoot, which is why everyone is saying to refresh, not many people here will ever upgrade their OS You could try sfc /scannow from CMD but unlikely to help ------ EDIT - 20 years computer experience and you upgraded ? jebus197 and siah1214 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0rk_b0mb Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 This to me seems like a simple bug. I know some of you guys are keen to help and I appreciate this. But I would prefer sensible answers only please. It's a very well documented "feature" of Windows Vista, Windows 7 and Windows 8 based systems. See if this link helps you: http://www.itworld.com/windows/259222/what-do-when-windows-explorer-doesnt-refresh jebus197 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebus197 Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 The issue is that a folder's contents are not properly auto-refreshed, when a new file/folder is created, or an existing file/folder is placed into the folder, or an existing file/folder is deleted from the folder ... right? It's a Windows 7 bug, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was happening in Windows 8 as well. I believe it has to do with the folder being included in a library, or the user is viewing a "library folder". Assuming your folder is somehow related to a library, you might try excluding some folders from the library, testing for the issue, then bringing the folders back into the library, and retesting. Oh, and post your results! I'm interested too! Regards, Jacob I'll disable libraries. I have no use for them. I'll let you know how I get on. Thanks for possibly the only sensible answer so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detection Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Thanks for possibly the only sensible answer so far. Good luck with help in the future, people tried to help you and also pointed out mistakes you made.... siah1214 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebus197 Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 Good luck with help in the future, people tried to help you and also pointed out mistakes you made.... I haven't made any mistakes mate. Everything was working just hunk dory before the Windows 8 upgrade and it's all working fine now, except for this one smal irritating bug. If I can work out how to disable libraries in Windows 8 there is it seems something of a consensus on the internet that this should resolve the problem. unfortunately the .reg file that was available for Windows 7 to do this doesn't work on Windows 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detection Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 I haven't made any mistakes mate. Everything was working just hunk dory before the Windows 8 upgrade and it's all working fine now, except for this one smal irritating bug. If I can work out how to disable libraries in Windows 8 there is it seems something of a consensus on the internet that this should resolve the problem. unfortunately the .reg file that was available for Windows 7 to do this doesn't work on Windows 8. You ran an upgrade on your OS Upgrades do that - but then again, so does 8 7 works, 8 doesn't. << Not a dig at 8, things that should work from 7 > 8 from every guide and correct reasoning, don't. 8 is the hacked joint that 8 fans will only realise once 9 is here. (EDIT - I hope) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebus197 Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 This is the first upgrade in over 20 years I ever did. Every other OS install I have ever done has been a clean install. If it was a mistake it was a deliberate mistake and what seemed like a small gamble. Yes upgrades don't always go according to plan, but neither are they always the disasters that you appear to be implying. I gambled, and largely correctly, that given the level of work involved in the alternatives and because i got my Windows 8 Upgrade disk for just over $15, it was worth giving it a shot. I don't like Windows 8 much however, and if I did make a mistake that was probably the only mistake I made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jebus197 Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 The issue is that a folder's contents are not properly auto-refreshed, when a new file/folder is created, or an existing file/folder is placed into the folder, or an existing file/folder is deleted from the folder ... right? It's a Windows 7 bug, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was happening in Windows 8 as well. I believe it has to do with the folder being included in a library, or the user is viewing a "library folder". Assuming your folder is somehow related to a library, you might try excluding some folders from the library, testing for the issue, then bringing the folders back into the library, and retesting. Oh, and post your results! I'm interested too! Regards, Jacob This dude hit the nail on the head. Five god stars for you I think. It is unquestionably the libraries feature that was causing this problem. With libraries disabled the problem has vanished! So much for needing to do a total reinstall from scratch, or rebuild from backups. I knew there had to be a simpler solution. What guys who recommend drastic action for simple problems don't understand it that you don't need to do a full OS reinstall every time Windows throws a small fit and that with care and patience you can probably work through most things. Perhaps you may all think twice before accusing people like me, or the guy who dug up this solution of 'lacking in experience'! Maybe there are some n00bs here, but I and this dude sure as hell ain't one of them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PUC_Snakeman Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Thanks. I was hoping Microsoft would have fixed this issue, but... it looks like they haven't. Good luck. jebus197 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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