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#1 Ian W

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 05:57

Now I know that no one likes a comparison to "the dreaded V-word," but I am wondering if anyone else has noticed the following similarities between the two operating systems?

I know that it is not difficult to find similarities between the many versions of Windows, but I feel that the following are significant, not only because of the number, but also because of the rarity of their occurrence.
  • Windows Vista and Windows 8 both introduced a new visual style / interface which encompasses various parts of the operating systems: Windows Aero, and the Windows 8 UI respectively.
  • Both had a revised Windows Explorer interface and new file management windows.
  • Both of the operating systems included an anti-malware solution: Windows Defender and Microsoft Security Essentials.
  • Fully integrated a child monitoring feature: Parental Controls and Family Safety.
  • Introduced “Live” features: Windows Sidebar (and Gadgets) and Start screen (with Live Tiles).
  • Bundled new E-Mail, Calendar, and Contact features.
  • Integrated seamlessly with a digital distribution system: Windows Marketplace and Windows Store.
  • Finally, both operating systems had a significant visual overhaul of the standard Windows games, such as Minesweeper.



#2 Secular Humanist

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 06:31

I am not a fan of either, but i don't see any similarities other then poor initial design. To me, Vista was a huge power hog and never felt.... polished; polishing came with windows 7. With Windows 8, I tried for the 3rd time to get to like it but went back Windows 7 just yesterday. Windows 8 I find is speedy, fast, and rock solid and is an awesome move forward BUT its just feels like it wasn't exactly polished to be a "finished" product. I hating switching back and forth between metro and desktop. If they made metro be as useful as a desktop then I would love it. Guess i have to wait for it to mature into Windows 9 for that. As a side note, windows 8 has awesome new features that i wish was in windows 7.

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 06:55

I'd say Vista was more polished in terms of user interface as far as visual overhaul goes. It lacked in speed optimization, drivers, hardware support, but it did look pretty "we have a pretty good idea of what we want it to look like" right out from the box. I'm afraid 8 doesn't give that feeling, although they've done a good job with the rest (inheriting largely from Vista and 7, though).

That's why Apple is successful. No matter what - it looks pretty, it looks finished and appears to work. People like pretty things.

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 06:58

The main similarity I see is: Both Vista and Windows 8 introduced new UI paradigms which need refinement in a dot release - Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 respectively.

The difference: Windows 7 was a a real improvement. Whether Windows 8.1 will make Windows 8 fully usable for me remains to be seen,

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 07:01

The main similarity I see is that they both generated a lot of complaints and criticism.

The thing I hated the most about Vista was a) the new theme and b) driver issues.

The thing I hate most about Windows 8 is that in part, you're forced to use a tablet UI on a desktop (until there was Start8).

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 07:02

I am not a fan of either, but i don't see any similarities other then poor initial design. To me, Vista was a huge power hog and never felt.... polished; polishing came with windows 7. With Windows 8, I tried for the 3rd time to get to like it but went back Windows 7 just yesterday. Windows 8 I find is speedy, fast, and rock solid and is an awesome move forward BUT its just feels like it wasn't exactly polished to be a "finished" product. I hating switching back and forth between metro and desktop. If they made metro be as useful as a desktop then I would love it. Guess i have to wait for it to mature into Windows 9 for that. As a side note, windows 8 has awesome new features that i wish was in windows 7.



Well you may want to try agian later on when windows Blue update is released as they refine allot more add more make improvements to the existing windows 8 . i personaly have been using windows 8 since the CP and such and love it so Blue will be a great update for it

#7 OP Ian W

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 07:41

Windows Vista was still a desktop OS, and its changes added to/enhanced that.
Windows 8 is totally different, and is a touch os first.

no real idea what you're trying to get to with this topic since you didn't include a point.


I thought it was interesting as I hadn't seen a comparison posted elsewere. I believe the similarities are special, for reasons mentioned above.

troll thread is troll bait....not good by any means. Don't feed the trolls, be adults, and stick to something else.....like the NSFW picure thread, for instance, lol.....still, not cool. Adults have the ability to adapt and move on....just sayin'. :/


Absent from my original post is the following: "I do not want to perpetuate the hate of either operating system (especially Windows 8)."

I wonder how differently you would feel if the topic compared Windows 8 with Windows 7 instead of Vista...?

No, I did not create this thread to attract the trolls. Why would anyone want to engage with others who are so frustrating?
Besides, there are plenty of "Windows 8 hate" topics already on this site.

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 08:13

Now I know that no one likes a comparison to "the dreaded V-word," but I am wondering if anyone else has noticed the following similarities between the two operating systems?

I know that it is not difficult to find similarities between the many versions of Windows, but I feel that the following are significant, not only because of the number, but also because of the rarity of their occurrence.

  • Windows Vista and Windows 8 both introduced a new visual style / interface which encompasses various parts of the operating systems: Windows Aero, and the Windows 8 UI respectively.
  • Both had a revised Windows Explorer interface and new file management windows.
  • Both of the operating systems included an anti-malware solution: Windows Defender and Microsoft Security Essentials.
  • Fully integrated a child monitoring feature: Parental Controls and Family Safety.
  • Introduced “Live” features: Windows Sidebar (and Gadgets) and Start screen (with Live Tiles).
  • Bundled new E-Mail, Calendar, and Contact features.
  • Integrated seamlessly with a digital distribution system: Windows Marketplace and Windows Store.
  • Finally, both operating systems had a significant visual overhaul of the standard Windows games, such as Minesweeper.


Couldn't this be said of most new releases of the OS?

I mean 'bundled new email and contact features' is something that's going to continue for as long as new OS's are made.
As for including 'anti-malware features', 'revised Windows Explorer interface and new file management windows' and 'Fully integrated a child monitoring feature: Parental Controls and Family Safety.', this again is a constant that's not going to change, they're comparable to vista in the same way that my morning cup of tea is comparable to my lunchtime cup of tea. So that leaves your list with...
  • Finally, both operating systems had a significant visual overhaul of the standard Windows games, such as Minesweeper.
  • Integrated seamlessly with a digital distribution system: Windows Marketplace and Windows Store.
  • Introduced “Live” features: Windows Sidebar (and Gadgets) and Start screen (with Live Tiles).
  • Windows Vista and Windows 8 both introduced a new visual style / interface which encompasses various parts of the operating systems: Windows Aero, and the Windows 8 UI respectively.
I'd say that UI change is also a constant between every release of the operating system. The Windows Store in 8 isn't at all anything like the Windows store on Vista, it's a completely different concept done in a completely different way.

Everything else you mentioned just seems to be an evolution of an operating system, which is how it always works. You'd be pretty miffed to buy Windows 9 to find nothing had changed.

For the record, i had a Vista machine when it came out and i had zero problems with it except for an old sound card that couldn't recognise the new audio stack, which is fair enough.

#9 Jason Stillion

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 08:35

Windows 8 adoption rate is currently slower than Vista adoption rate at the time.
http://www.nbcnews.c...vista-1C7800805

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 22:42

Reasons for Windows 8 will fail!
1. Touch screens are too EXPENSIVE, and Windows 8 was primarily made for touchscreens!
2. It is $200 now instead of the reasonable $40
3. The GUI is too radically different
4. Windows XP is set to expire, and businesses will most likely be getting Windows 7 machines.

Windows 8 isnt bad, its just too awkward and different. I believe it should have been released as a separate OS! Windows Vista was different because a majority of PCs couldnt run it. Vista was a necessary thing to have Windows 7 and 8! One major similarity vista and 8 are, a majority of Vista pcs in 2007 couldnt run it yet and currently a majority of Windows 8 pcs are not or do not have touchscreens!

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 22:52

Windows Vista, Windows 7 and Windows 8 all fall in the same "Longhorn" project.
What went wrong with Vista? Longhorn was too large they had to cut back on features and release. Major hit was quality.
Windows 7 was a round of stabilisation and performance increase
Windows 8 is the final iteration.
What happened to longhorn? The original concept was changed over the years to meet technology needs.

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 22:59

Reasons for Windows 8 will fail!
1. Touch screens are too EXPENSIVE, and Windows 8 was primarily made for touchscreens!
2. It is $200 now instead of the reasonable $40
3. The GUI is too radically different
4. Windows XP is set to expire, and businesses will most likely be getting Windows 7 machines.


1: False, Windows 8 works fine with or without a touch screen, it is no different. Actually it's like taking Windows 7 and making it more touch friendly, something Windows 7 was horrible at was running on a tablet/touchscreen

2: Most people are getting it with new systems, and businesses don't pay $200 a license via VL agreements

3: The GUI hasn't changed much actually, only the start menu.

4: That really has nothing to do with Windows 8, smart businesses usually never adopt the latest and greatest. They have tested their apps and infrastructure extensively by this point and stick with that they have tested on, Windows 7. There hasn't been enough time to test stuff on Windows 8, it's time consuming to start over every time a new OS is released, and time is money.

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 23:08

Windows 8 is a trendy OS whereby you can walk into a kiosk or cafe and turn heads as being in the "in" crowd. MS basically pulled a brain fart and think they'll tell us what we want. Kinda like governments do and we know how that goes...

Touchscreen is good if you have a touchscreen refrigerator or maybe touchscreen TV.

Forcing anything on anyone or telling them "this or that" is what they want never works.

ReactOS seems like a cool idea and competition is always a good thing by keeping entities honest

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 23:10

3: The GUI hasn't changed much actually, only the start menu.


Microsoft actually change ALOT of the GUI in Windows 8. When you booted previous Windows, it went straight to the desktop, now it goes to a tablet like interface. Microsoft also remove translucency, they removed the classic gui. They basically tabletized the entire Windows OS. The desktop now is supposedly a APP, and I hope that is not true!

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 23:17

Microsoft actually change ALOT of the GUI in Windows 8. When you booted previous Windows, it went straight to the desktop, now it goes to a tablet like interface. Microsoft also remove translucency, they removed the classic gui. They basically tabletized the entire Windows OS. The desktop now is supposedly a APP, and I hope that is not true!

1. windows hasn't booted to the desktop since before windows 2000. It boots to the log in screen just like previous versions of windows
2. is transparency really even that big of deal? i mean honestly, all it is is eye candy. it in no way effects how anything works
3. what do you mean classic gui? do you mean the classic theme? if so there's good reason they removed it finally
4. the desktop is definitely not just an app. it's still a very major part of the OS so you don't have to worry about that