The Iron Lady, Margaret Thatcher, Dies following a stroke

[Dick Montage]

Perhaps you ought to imagine being one of the people who's life was ruined by her nasty policies.

Can totally understand them disliking her as a politician, her policies, bitterness felt.

But labeling them as "nasty" is kin of childish, it's not like she set out to hurt anyone directly and the end result of (say the closure of the mines) was a necessary evil.

If they were hurt by her policies, then surely the celebration would have been due when she lost power, not her freaking death. That is a classless thing to do and really just perpetuates the idea of the working class mentality (not suing I subscribe to the idea, but recognise that it does exist).

[Steven P. Administrators]

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R.I.P. Margaret Thatcher. You were one heck of a leader.

Agree, RIP. :(

If only we had a leader like her running Britain at the moment! Last PM with balls imo.

[Torolol]

surely the celebration would have been due when she lost power,

no, thats unlikely as her successors decided that what she was doing as 'good' and continues it.

[Dick Montage]

no, thats unlikely as her successors decided that what she was doing as 'good' and continues it.

In many ways Major most certainly did not continue her policies.

[DocM]

What a disgusting thing to post. Whether you agree with her politics or not - celebrating someone's death is a foul thing to do.

^ yup. Well put.

[+Mirumir Subscriber¹]

In my view, she was the most "American" (in the classical sense of the word) British PM of the 20th century.

She stood for a small government, low taxes, and tight money supply.

And then came the liberals who spoiled all the seeds she had planted, completely reversed the course of the economy, and blamed all the hardship that followed on the Tories.

[GrayW]

If only the spineless ****wits we currently have in Downing Street had the big swinging ones the Iron Lady had.

[+Gary7 Subscriber²]

She was the last PM you people had that had any balls. And then there are the idiots praizing her death.

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[He's Dead Jim]

Bye bye witch...

If only the spineless ****wits we currently have in Downing Street had the big swinging ones the Iron Lady had.

lol, they dont need balls, they're one percenters....

[Noir Angel]

I don't celebrate people's deaths but I have absolutely no regard for her as a person at all. Her "pro rich anti poor" crap still colours Conservative thinking to this day, every time they get into power the worst off start suffering.

[Lovell]

And then came the liberals who spoiled all the seeds she had planted, completely reversed the course of the economy, and blamed all the hardship that followed on the Tories.

The Labour party aren't Liberals.

she was an upper class elitist, doing everything to appease the rich and destroying the working-class....

What? she was middle class it was one of the reasons a lot of people disliked her as they considered her far to common.

[jakem1]

As there are millions who would disagree with you. As they can be traced back to Wilson and Heath. She set out to WIN over the Unions, not the people therein. It was ALL about strategy and not people. Is that cold? Yes 100%. Thus making it a tough and unpopular decision, but if you believe for a second it was directly targeted at people then that is a childish view.

Again, it was a necessary evil that was coming sooner or later. The north failed to adapt to the modern UK, clinging on hopelessly to a few declining industries and then blames "rich people making decisions in the south". She put a lame dog down - possibly a LITTLE too soon, but do you see those economies still being around 10 years later? 20? Hardly!

Well we'll have to agress to disagree. The policies you think were so great have been universally discredited and they've left the UK a basket case that it is today. We have an economy that's totally reliant on finance, doesn't produce anything useful and can't compete with successful countries like Germany. The poor are targetted and blamed for the situation while the rich are able to milk the system for all it's worth. Her legacy of privatisation left us with the train system that barely works but is the most expensive in Europe, gas and electricity that nobody can afford and water that costs a fortune as it seeps into the ground through cracked pipes.

Personally, I don't see how you can think that a woman who didn't believe in society was taking big risks to help the majority. She and her kind are only interested in helping their mates.

[Noir Angel]

She was a snob, the whole conservative party are snobs. A bunch of jumped up eton boys that have no connection to the common man.

[He's Dead Jim]

I suppose the Winter of Discontent was a good thing then?

She reversed the economic decline in Britain caused by rampant strikes and arrogant unions.

She sold my families fishing heritage for the opt out clause/uk veto, vile b!tch

[Hum]

Farewell Margaret ... you had a grace and class that few others do.

[Dick Montage]

What? she was middle class it was one of the reasons a lot of people disliked her as they considered her far to common.

Oh how that chip-on-shoulder destroys any form of objectivity. She was from a very common background, but as soon as she got into number 10 she was seen as "posh and one of them"...

Her "pro rich anti poor" crap

Pro progress/industry/economy... Not anit-poor, just eschewed the idea of supporting an area that seemed unable to move onto new industries and clung on hard to those that were clearly dying. The coal pits that were closed were all hemorrhaging money, but again that chip-on-shoulder mentality suggested that the world owed them a living and had to keep these uneconomical pits open. Even when privatised and with new money, they couldn't be kept open as they had become such financial drains.

In fact, it was Harrold Wilson (Lab) who started the closure of the mines...

[+Gary7 Subscriber²]

Farewell Margaret ... you had a grace and class that few others do.

Someone with some class finally spoke.

[He's Dead Jim]

Now we buy lower quality polish coal, which is even less efficient than the busted british mines

Someone with some class finally spoke.

Tonight many people will celebrate this passing of a tyrant

[FloatingFatMan]

I'm willing to bet that most of the folks hating on Maggie were either not even born when she was in power, or related to former coal miners; probably both.

Maggie was the best leader we've had since Churchill's day. She was strong, determined, and didn't take and crap from anyone. Sure, she made some mistakes, but all politicians do so you can't single her out for hate unless you're going to single out EVERY other politician for that same hate.

RIP Margaret. At least now, you can't hear the know-it-all butheads that weren't even alive in the 70's/80's, acting like they knew what you were like.

[Noir Angel]

It wasn't just miners that felt the squeeze from her actions, almost all lower class people still did, the exact same class of people that are being squeezed by the modern tories.

[FloatingFatMan]

It wasn't just miners that felt the squeeze from her actions, almost all lower class people still did, the exact same class of people that are being squeezed by the modern tories.

I'm not exactly a rich elite; I'm being squeezed pretty tightly with all the cuts currently. But I also know that the Tories have the only viable policies to get this country out of the financial chasm that Labour threw us in to.

[Dick Montage]

She was a snob, the whole conservative party are snobs. A bunch of jumped up eton boys that have no connection to the common man.

Not even worth bothering with this. She was so far from a "snob" it makes your comment laughable. You clearly have no clue as to her background or the ways she knocked heads against "the establishment".

Well we'll have to agress to disagree. The policies you think were so great have been universally discredited and they've left the UK a basket case that it is today. We have an economy that's totally reliant on finance, doesn't produce anything useful and can't compete with successful countries like Germany. The poor are targetted and blamed for the situation while the rich are able to milk the system for all it's worth. Her legacy of privatisation left us with the train system that barely works but is the most expensive in Europe, gas and electricity that nobody can afford and water that costs a fortune as it seeps into the ground through cracked pipes.

She was given a country where these services were already failing. Many of our industries were in massive decline, our rail service was flawed from the start and had suffered massive lack of investment. Gas and electricity regulation came in under her watch, and moreover is perfectly affordable. And these "cracked" pipes... You mean the ones that predate the PCV pipes that were first used in the 1980's under, oh yes Thatcher.

She and her kind are only interested in helping their mates.

If you suggest "her kind" as meaning politicians, and "their mates" as being those who helped her run the country, the industries that drove us forward, then yes, I agree.

She sold my families fishing heritage for the opt out clause/uk veto, vile b!tch

Again a niche industry that was not proving the UK to be financially viable to support. I can understand why this slights you.

It wasn't just miners that felt the squeeze from her actions, almost all lower class people still did, the exact same class of people that are being squeezed by the modern tories.

How easily you forget that Labour also squeezed... But let's imagine for 5 seconds that the treasury has an infinite sum of money to fund all the things that people want... That was a nice fantasy!

Back to reality, a lot of middle class people felt it too, such as my family. The upper classes (also felt it but had the buffers to protect themselves).

Tonight many people will celebrate this passing of a tyrant

Oh, that makes it cool to badmouth the dead then.

[DrCheese]

she was an upper class elitist, doing everything to appease the rich and destroying the working-class....

I see, that's why the working class were allowed to buy their council houses under her rule, share ownership went up from 7% of the population to 25% and average personal wealth rose by 80%.

She also made BT a private firm

What's wrong with that? Before then you accepted BT's prices or you simply had no phone service. Monopoly's are bad.

The state owned a ton of stuff that we simply had no business owning. At one point the state owned Thomas cook, which was just plain stupid. My taxes should not be funding a travel agent!

and I'd say that she almost certainly did set out to harm large numbers of people, especially unionists.

The unions were absolutely murdering this country in the 70s. They could legally strike at the drop of a hat (and did) It's not right that powerful union bosses could bring down a democratically elected government simply because they disagreed with it.

This country was on it's knee's & had to go cap in hand begging to the IMF for a bailout.

[HSoft]

I'm willing to bet that most of the folks hating on Maggie were either not even born when she was in power, or related to former coal miners; probably both.

Maggie was the best leader we've had since Churchill's day. She was strong, determined, and didn't take and crap from anyone. Sure, she made some mistakes, but all politicians do so you can't single her out for hate unless you're going to single out EVERY other politician for that same hate.

RIP Margaret. At least now, you can't hear the know-it-all butheads that weren't even alive in the 70's/80's, acting like they knew what you were like.

^This. She wasn't perfect (hated that she brought the poll tax to Scotland first as a "trial" and some other things she done) but probably the best PM Britain has had post war.

[DrCheese]

^ eh I disagree. I doubt anyone thought that when Gaddafi, Bin Laden or Hitler (yes I godwinned the thread :p) died.