California court says, Motorist can't use hand-held map


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If you want to go that far, so is having a conversation with someone in the car. So is singing to your favorite song on the radio. So is listening/paying attention to a debate on a news station.

Having a conversation on the hand free that are built into the car is no more of a distraction than any of the above. Holding a phone to your ear you tend to forget what you are doing when things get heated, typing anything in distracts you from the road because you don't know where the keys are to type and you certainly can't feel them with the touch phones. Anything that takes away from you being able to view the road 100% of the time is a distraction. I hit a button on my steering wheel and with little thought I tell the system to call my wife. The system then dials my wife. I then tell her I am on my way and ask if she needs anything, if it is a long list I ask her to text me and I will look at it when I get to the store. I then ask how the kids were doing today. All the while having my hands on the steering wheel and not looking at anything else other than the road.

Not true. I wish I still had the link to the report which covers active listening and passive-listening. Passive listening is like that of listening to a song. You hear it, but it requires no attention on your part. Active listening, such as a phone call, requires much more attention as you must pay complete attention in order to respond to a question or provide feedback.

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Any activity which distracts you from the act of driving increases the risk of an accident. Yes, I do think hands-free conversations count, but they are 'the lesser evil'. The key danger lies within doing anything which makes you take your eyes off the road - reading a paper map or a newspaper counts too in my book and should be penalized.

I'm really scared when I see drivers turning towards the other occupants when talking - I'd rather be considered rude but keep my eyes on the road.

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Not true. I wish I still had the link to the report which covers active listening and passive-listening. Passive listening is like that of listening to a song. You hear it, but it requires no attention on your part. Active listening, such as a phone call, requires much more attention as you must pay complete attention in order to respond to a question or provide feedback.

listening to a song is not the same as singing along to a song, you are paying attention to the lyrics to sing along to it. listening to a talk radio show that gets you heated is not the same as passive listening. passive listening is like listening to white noise, it is there but you pay no mind to it. active listening is what a lot of people do to memorize songs, sing along to songs, listen and comprehend what is going on in a talk show. I will turn on a pop station and it will be white noise to me, howard stern touches something I don't like and my blood starts to boil and I start paying less attention to the road and more attention to him. Ever get into an argument with someone...try listening to someone you strongly do not agree with in a topic, maybe michael moore, and do anything at the same time...the thing you are doing, you will be doing slower and much less precise. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out or an article.

active vs passive

http://fourgrainer.c...sive-listening/

The minute that you listen/pay attention to what you are hearing you go from passive to active.

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O I lost count how many times I see drivers looking at their smartphone(s) while driving past me.

This should be in the law, like seat belt law.

But I know the auto engineer will soon invent a text-to-speech texting client connect to your smartphone through BT. So you can speak your text while you drive. LOL

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A ticket for a good reason.

Using a phone while driving, even slowly, takes your attention of the road.

Quite agree. Doesn't matter if it's texting or looking at maps.

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Nope, he was stuck in traffic. Not like he stopped on the side of the road, so he is still considered in driving.

Doing anything with your phone while driving is dangerous. If you use it like GPS, buy the stand for it.

He was stopped...if he was moving I can see him getting a ticket.

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Nope, he was stuck in traffic. Not like he stopped on the side of the road, so he is still considered in driving.

Doing anything with your phone while driving is dangerous. If you use it like GPS, buy the stand for it.

He stopped doesn't really matter if the law was written like some of them.... I know some laws say you must pull over and put your emergency break on, some laws say the engine must be off and parking brake engaged..... just being stopped doesn't pass in those states... because you can still be wreckless with your foot on the brake... forget your are braking and pull it off ooops...

edit: this was suppose to be a reply to the other guy, quoted the wrong one... ugh

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I believe that the court ruled against the motorist primarily to discourage motorists from using a handheld when riding a bike on the road.  The traffic rules and regulations are designed to ensure the safety of the people who travel on the road.  

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listening to a song is not the same as singing along to a song, you are paying attention to the lyrics to sing along to it. listening to a talk radio show that gets you heated is not the same as passive listening. passive listening is like listening to white noise, it is there but you pay no mind to it. active listening is what a lot of people do to memorize songs, sing along to songs, listen and comprehend what is going on in a talk show. I will turn on a pop station and it will be white noise to me, howard stern touches something I don't like and my blood starts to boil and I start paying less attention to the road and more attention to him. Ever get into an argument with someone...try listening to someone you strongly do not agree with in a topic, maybe michael moore, and do anything at the same time...the thing you are doing, you will be doing slower and much less precise. It doesn't take a genius to figure that out or an article.

active vs passive

http://fourgrainer.c...sive-listening/

The minute that you listen/pay attention to what you are hearing you go from passive to active.

 

http://www.distraction.gov/download/research-pdf/failures_of_visual_attention.pdf

 

You might also get distracted by the radio on specific situations, but that doesn't make phone calls while driving any less dangerous.

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What people fail to realize, is that for the most part, traffic violations are primarily a source of income and nothing more. The "infraction" is merely the justification for the legal extortion carried out by the state.

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He stopped doesn't really matter if the law was written like some of them.... I know some laws say you must pull over and put your emergency break on, some laws say the engine must be off and parking brake engaged..... just being stopped doesn't pass in those states... because you can still be wreckless with your foot on the brake... forget your are braking and pull it off ooops...

edit: this was suppose to be a reply to the other guy, quoted the wrong one... ugh

 

They passed a similar law here in CT, problem is I've seen local and State Police talking on their phones while driving, I don't see how they could actually stop anyone else while blowing past me doing 80+ on a phone in 55 zone, and yes this has happened quite a few times, it's interesting the things you see when you have a 45 min - an hour commute each way to work

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