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#61 +warwagon

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 15:05

Maybe. But we could also blame Windows 7 just as equally.


So then that's a no. *face palm*


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Posted 11 April 2013 - 22:54

didn't theres news Lenovo said that they choose preinstall new computers with windows 7 instead of windows 8, and it helps their pc sales ?
so its not a stretch to say that Windows 8 might be detrimental for pc sales growth.


Actually yeah the they do.

http://www.channelre...vo_windows8_meh

So let me get this straight.
The only oem that has pc's auto downgraded to Windows 7, is the only oem doing well...Hmmm...
One might even say thats an indicator of where customer demand is..




But hey, Windows 8 has nothing to do with the declining Pc sells! Not one bit! /s :D

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 23:28

That link talks about enterprise customers and those wouldn't have gone Windows 8 this early even if it came with free unicorns but whatever.

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 23:30

recession, bad economic status for a lot of the world right now, Windows 8, it all adds up... Not surprising really.

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 23:31

can you at least admit that it might have had a TINY TINY bit to do with it?

oh well...windows 8 failed to revive an already dying market that's for sure but let's not forget the major flaw in these numbers.

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 23:40

Is there a site that shows you a chart / figures of Windows OS sales since say 2001 to today and for each OS XP > 8 ?

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 23:58

Why does everyone assume new OS = new computer. Did each and every person here run out and buy a whole new computer when the beloved Windows 7 came out? No. Yes Windows 8 failed to produce any excitement in the market, but it's not like PC sales rely on new operating systems being released. If so they would lock out the ability to upgrade the operating system.

PC sales are dying simply because of the rise of mobile computing (phones and tablets), and the fact that desktop hardware today exceeds the majority of user's needs (more time between upgrades). Windows 8 is not why PC sales are declining. It sure as hell isn't helping the situation, but the market overall would still be dying even if Windows 8 was a huge success.

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 23:59

A lot of people blame Windows 8 and I'm on the fence about whether that is true or not. A lot of people including myself don't like Windows 8 but I have said for a long time that mobile is the future, whether it be phones or tablets. It just seems to me that most people see Microsoft as a desktop company and they would rather have something else on mobile. I love Android and find it hard to beat.

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 00:05

That link talks about enterprise customers and those wouldn't have gone Windows 8 this early even if it came with free unicorns but whatever.


I can buy a laptop from Lenovo right now with windows 7.
http://shop.lenovo.c...191&action=init

So its not exclusive to enterprise customers.


oh well...windows 8 failed to revive an already dying market



I agree


.... but let's not forget the major flaw in these numbers.



Whats the flaw in these numbers?

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 00:28

Windows PCs sold in much greater numbers than what is being reported by bloggers and sites. All because IDC and Gartner have decided to redefine what PC means,and they have not clarified this information. According to them, PC only equals desktop and notebook. Windows 8 ultrabooks,convertibles,tablets,etc... are no longer included in PC figures. The "traditional PC" may be down this much, but the other devices are defined in a different segment and are now grouped in their own category. If you bought one of these devices,guess what,you didn't buy a PC.

BTW to know how full of **** these firms are,check out this gem



<p>
  • According to Gartner, Mac sales in the U.S. grew 7.4%
  • According to IDC, they fell 7.5%
http://tech.fortune....ac-gartner-idc/

theres a %15 gap, WHAT??? ladies and gents,welcome to the world of sponsored reports.


:)

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 00:42

Come Summer I'll be building myself a new PC.

One to add to the numbers :D

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 00:49

While it's true that tablets etc have caused a decline, and windows 8 has contributed to that significantly, I feel that a lack of innovation on pc designers is also to blame. You need only to walk into a Best Buy or PC World, to be underwhelmed by not only what's on offer, but the terrible specs on them too. The best PCs as we know are the ones we build ourselves, and the average consumer doesn't do that.

The PC isn't going anywhere, but unless it innovates somehow, it can expect to share a larger portion of market with other devices.

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 02:48

I can buy a laptop from Lenovo right now with windows 7.

Whats the flaw in these numbers?

Check your link, business/enterprise targeted laptop.

Flaw: http://www.neowin.ne...t__p__595632062

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 03:05

IDC DOES NOT INCLUDE ULTRABOOKS OR TABLETS IN THESE NUMBERS

So that means that clunky desktops and laptop sales are declining. And yes, that is absolutely Windows 8's fault. It's making tablet and ultrabook form factors look far more appealing and people are getting those instead. So yes, Windows 8 is killing the desktop market. I think we all saw that coming, except for the idiots that seriously believe that Windows 8 is killing the Windows-based computer market (since apparently we're not calling it a PC anymore)

IDC's report is correct, but for the opposite reason that everyone here seems to think. Old form factors are dying, new ones are taking over. And that's good, for Microsoft, for the consumer, for everyone except for the haters in the tech industry.

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Posted 12 April 2013 - 03:20

Its the economy and the fact 90 million plus americans are out of work and the rest of the planet isn't doing much better and in a lot of cases is doing worse - it has nothing to do with Windows 8, it has to do with the economy and lack of money. People are slower to upgrade, hanging onto what they have longer due to costs, and there's so much negative bull**** publicity out there there are lots of falsehoods circulating of course some people who don't know better are scared of it.