Parents sue after county uses son's remains to train dogs

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LOCKPORT, NY ? The parents of a western New York man killed in a car crash are suing county officials after the coroner there took a piece of their son's body for use in a dog-training exercise.

Roger Dunn, 32, died April 13, 2012, in an auto wreck in Cambria.

After his death, Niagara County Coroner Russell Jackman gave some tissue from the crash scene to a volunteer fire chief who was training a dog to sniff out human remains.

Both men later resigned and pleaded guilty to misdemeanors over their conduct. They also apologized.

Each was fined $1,000 and ordered to perform 100 hours of community service with the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals and write letters of apology to the Dunns.

The Buffalo News reports that Dunn's parents, Danny and Anita, filed a lawsuit this week against the county, the former coroner, the ex-chief and the Cambria Volunteer Fire Company.

County officials who investigated the mishandling of the remains had called it a well-intentioned mistake.

Niagara County Sheriff James Voutour said at the time that training dogs with cadavers is standard procedure but added, "There are legal means to obtain cadaver parts. ... They didn't follow those legal guidelines."

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It's about respect for the deceased, the remains and the family. on the other hand the people responsible where reprimanded and have resigned. at this point the family is suing just for a cash grab.

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I'm not sure where the 2 of them went wrong. So they didn't fill out some paperwork. Big woop.

a woop?

and that's coming from someone that will donate his body to the "bodyfarm" after your time is up?

how about they will feed your remains to dogs?

how about they will burn your body just to be sure, how much time will it take to human body to completely burn in a car?

it seems you dont care for the dead, so i'm sure you wouldn't care to get involved in some "scientific tests"

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a woop?

and that's coming from someone that will donate his body to the "bodyfarm" after your time is up?

how about they will feed your remains to dogs?

how about they will burn your body just to be sure, how much time will it take to human body to completely burn in a car?

it seems you dont care for the dead, so i'm sure you wouldn't care to get involved in some "scientific tests"

They can do whatever they want with me. If I'm dead I'm pretty sure I won't care. Obsession over the dead is a silly religious thing. I can understand a headstone in memorial of someone's life, but I never understood why someone would want to keep a pile of ashes from their dead family member. That's just weird to me.

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The point being the body was desecrated,

The point being they acted illegally,

The point being they had procedures in place and knew better,

The point being their superiors appear from the sound bite to be totally unsympathetic to the bereaved family........

If it happened to a relative of yours what would your reaction be?

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If it happened to a relative of yours what would your reaction be?

Not this. At the most I'd put in an official complaint. A lawsuit simply doesn't achieve anything, not considering the people responsible have resigned and faced charges. Unfortunately people are obsessed with money and retribution.

Losing a loved one is a terrible tragedy but this sort of nonsense is completely unwarranted and not helpful. People need to stop taking offence to everything. The actions of the officials involved weren't intended to disrespect the dead but to help save the lives of others.

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The outcome did not cover all those involved but merely the scapegoats, those in charge are clearly responsibly for their subordinate actions and a court case may prevent this sorry story repeating itself.The post makes no distinction of their actions in that they could or could not have knowingly been disrespectful to the deceased one may never know,neither does it state weather this was common practice or not..........

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The guy was dead. Personally I see not being on the doner register or allowing your body to be used for science is nothing but wasteful.

I don't see them having done anything really wrong, they certainly shouldn't have resigned. Put in a complaint by all means, but as has been said, the lawsuit is just shamelessly cashing in.

Personally, when I die, I hope my body goes to some use. Whether whatever good parts are left can be donated, and the rest used for science or some kind of good, I just don't want it to go to waste. It will be a perfectly good dead body, do with it what they will. Within reason of course. A straight cremation or burial would actually be offensive to me.

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Not this. At the most I'd put in an official complaint. A lawsuit simply doesn't achieve anything, not considering the people responsible have resigned and faced charges. Unfortunately people are obsessed with money and retribution.

Losing a loved one is a terrible tragedy but this sort of nonsense is completely unwarranted and not helpful. People need to stop taking offence to everything. The actions of the officials involved weren't intended to disrespect the dead but to help save the lives of others.

Exactly, a lawsuit is more than likely less about what they did to the body and more about making some money off of it. Otherwise a lawsuit is pointless. Why do you need to get paid because of this? Hold people accountable if you wish, sure. Just another case of a lawyer probably suggesting they could make money off of it and they said "Oh yeah?". So the fact that they need a lawsuit over it may be the most disrespectful thing of all. Your son just died and you're trying to make a dime off what sounds in the article more like a body part of piece of flesh that was no longer even attached to the person.

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They can do whatever they want with me. If I'm dead I'm pretty sure I won't care. Obsession over the dead is a silly religious thing. I can understand a headstone in memorial of someone's life, but I never understood why someone would want to keep a pile of ashes from their dead family member. That's just weird to me.

Agreed.

As for the above, I'll be dead and I wouldn't care; and like David Mitchell I would though want to be totally and utterly dead

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As for the above, I'll be dead and I wouldn't care; and like David Mitchell I would though want to be totally and utterly dead

HAHAHA, love David Mitchell, hadn't seen that one though

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Both men later resigned and pleaded guilty to misdemeanors over their conduct. They also apologized.

Each was fined $1,000 and ordered to perform 100 hours of community service with the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals and write letters of apology to the Dunns.

They did wrong but this is an overreaction.

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They can do whatever they want with me. If I'm dead I'm pretty sure I won't care. Obsession over the dead is a silly religious thing. I can understand a headstone in memorial of someone's life, but I never understood why someone would want to keep a pile of ashes from their dead family member. That's just weird to me.

You don't have to keep the ashes in the urn forever, up to you... you can throw them in the ocean or take it to the frisbee factory and ask them to place the ashes in the frisbee... or whatever you want to do with it.

You can look up on the web about the ashes .... I have seen the articles about people got the ashes in something such as frisbee, etc..

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a woop?

and that's coming from someone that will donate his body to the "bodyfarm" after your time is up?

how about they will feed your remains to dogs?

how about they will burn your body just to be sure, how much time will it take to human body to completely burn in a car?

it seems you dont care for the dead, so i'm sure you wouldn't care to get involved in some "scientific tests"

they are dead.... there time is up ... who really cares? when im dead do what you want with my body (just make sure i am dead)

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You don't have to keep the ashes in the urn forever, up to you... you can throw them in the ocean or take it to the frisbee factory and ask them to place the ashes in the frisbee... or whatever you want to do with it.

You can look up on the web about the ashes .... I have seen the articles about people got the ashes in something such as frisbee, etc..

I want mine to pollute Space. :p

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Dead people might not be able to feel pain but their wishes should still be respected.

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