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Posted 17 April 2013 - 17:17

so.... so... the rumour is that the previous rumour.... is just a romour.....? OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Posted 17 April 2013 - 17:22

You mean the ones where you can twist the d-pad and it raises or lowers the +? I've never actually used one of those.

Yeah - I don't have it either.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 17:26

I think I remember reading that BC on the 360 was pretty hit-and-miss. If BC is on the nextbox, I hope it is better implemented.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 17:27

I really doubt the backwards compatibility is true. Including what is basically the 360 hardware would jack up the price quite a bit. If they were to do that and force kinect upon you like other rumors have said they're pretty much setting themselves up to be the sony of this generation in terms of price and bleeding money.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 17:32

Funny hypocrites, you'll believe this rumour but the one that says always on is required is clearly false?


Funny, I was thinking the same thing, well almost....

I guess this rumor just happened to slip by AB radar.

I think I remember reading that BC on the 360 was pretty hit-and-miss. If BC is on the nextbox, I hope it is better implemented.


well the BC onthe 360 was hit as long as the title was BC supported.

I really doubt the backwards compatibility is true. Including what is basically the 360 hardware would jack up the price quite a bit. If they were to do that and force kinect upon you like other rumors have said they're pretty much setting themselves up to be the sony of this generation in terms of price and bleeding money.


The difference is that MS can afford to bleed money, Sony couldn't and can't. I'm thinking that a 360 on a chip is a very small part of the price though.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 17:33

I'm not sure how I feel about the Nextbox running Windows 8. The Xbox TV sounds interesting, if true. I still hate Kinect, and I still hate the fact that it's required. Again, if the online-only rumor is true, I won't be getting the console all together.

Too bad Microsoft postponed their announcement for no reason. It would have been nice to know whether these things are true or not.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 17:37

Of course "Next Xbox" won't require you to be online to play games. That would be pants-on-head retarded, especially when the main competitor isn't doing it. Whether or not the source for this rumour is authentic, its claims are at least credible (while the previous ones were not).

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 17:43

Although i have thought this all along, i will still wait for some solid evidence before breathing a sigh of relief.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 17:45

I think I remember reading that BC on the 360 was pretty hit-and-miss. If BC is on the nextbox, I hope it is better implemented.

I think they were pretty much re-compiling games for 360 IIRC so BC was available as long as the game was re-compiled. (I might be completely wrong though)
I don't think 360 SoC will be cheap enough to be included as standard :/ it has to be an add on.

Funny, I was thinking the same thing, well almost....

I guess this rumor just happened to slip by AB radar.

Surprise, surprise.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 17:46

the xbox360 SoC already exists on the slim model. Its 45nm though. If the rumor is true,im guessing the die is shrunk even more.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 17:47

I'm not sure how I feel about the Nextbox running Windows 8. The Xbox TV sounds interesting, if true. I still hate Kinect, and I still hate the fact that it's required. Again, if the online-only rumor is true, I won't be getting the console all together.

Too bad Microsoft postponed their announcement for no reason. It would have been nice to know whether these things are true or not.

My guess? Most likely will be binary compatible with WinRT and nothing more.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 21:46

I have a life outside of Neowin, I don't exist to be anyones posting boy. You can probably buy one of them from Thailand if you are so inclined.

You damn better hope this is true, always online would be an awful awful decision.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 22:07

I think they were pretty much re-compiling games for 360 IIRC so BC was available as long as the game was re-compiled. (I might be completely wrong though)
I don't think 360 SoC will be cheap enough to be included as standard :/ it has to be an add on.


Considering the vastly different CPU arch. between the original xbox and the 360...that's really the only viable way to do it. Unless you take the route of the nexbox and just include the last gen's SoC.

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 22:16

Just pointing out that this is the same way the PS3 originally did BC. Emotion engine was included in the original fat PS3's

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 04:55

I have a life outside of Neowin, I don't exist to be anyones posting boy. You can probably buy one of them from Thailand if you are so inclined.

You damn better hope this is true, always online would be an awful awful decision.

Depends on what "always online" applies to. So far only the doomsayers have made the leap to overarching DRM. Otherwise it would make sense for certain features to require an online connection, say Netflix for example.