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[quote name='ichi' timestamp='1366805349' post='595655506']
Maybe not, if ST Micro has a license already. You don't pay twice for licenses.
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But HTC doesn't, that's kind of important to.

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[quote name='HawkMan' timestamp='1366810163' post='595655618']


But HTC doesn't, that's kind of important to.
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Wouldn't that be the same kind of double dipping Samsung was (IIRC) rightfully accused of when they sued an OEM (not sure if it was Apple or someone else) for infringement of patents that had already been licensed to the provider of the components?

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[quote name='ichi' timestamp='1366814316' post='595655802']
Wouldn't that be the same kind of double dipping Samsung was (IIRC) rightfully accused of when they sued an OEM (not sure if it was Apple or someone else) for infringement of patents that had already been licensed to the provider of the components?
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it depends on the patent license agreement.

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[quote name='- Kaboose -' timestamp='1366717434' post='595653672']
that's exactly what's going on here, but every delusional windows mobile / Nokia fanboy wants to cry about this and shout "outrage", please give me a break.
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I have other reasons to hate STM than just this. (I'm looking at *you*, lying IGBT datasheet writers.... The hours I've wasted at work.....)

However, under many IP laws, you're liable if you sell, import, use, etc. something that contains an infringing technology.

If I buy a chip that someone knocked off, I shouldn't be allowed to sell my product just because it was another company's fault. That's completely unfair to the original IP holder. I do, however, have full recourse to recoup my losses from the jerk who illegally sold me stuff.

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[quote name='vcfan' timestamp='1366841938' post='595656498']
it depends on the patent license agreement.
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Of course, that's why I said "maybe not".

If ST Micro is licensing the tech from Nokia then HTC wouldn't have to pay, in the same way as Android OEMs who have signed a patent agreement with MS and have their devices manufactured by Foxconn will now be sharing the license costs (ie, either Foxconn pays, the OEM pays or the costs are shared, but it doesn't get paid twice).

So far the issue is not about patents though (at least not yet) but NDA breach, so we won't actually know what would happen with any related patents until later.

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[quote name='Boz' timestamp='1366764765' post='595654936']
And that's how it should be. STM is fully at fault here and HTC should replace the components in new phones. This is good news.
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Exactly this.

BTW love all the armchair Microsoft analysts' comments.

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