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[quote name='Master of Earth' timestamp='1367223696' post='595663240']All current apple product and iOS/OSX design is stale. OS X has been water down by iOS features ever since late 2010 with the unveil of OS X Lion.[/quote]

Oh Jesus Christ not this crap again - geeks on forums demanding change for the sake of change whilst at the same time screaming to the top of their lungs when Microsoft tries to do something slightly 'out of left field' with their GUI design. Apple isn't dying but the competition is getting better and quite frankly it won't matter how much Apple change the end of the day there are more people who want to have more different devices on offer than it is practical for any single organisation to cater for. End of the day the question is whether Apple is willing to accept that they'll never have the massive marketshare they had before (of which they gained off the back of the competition being on the back foot) or whether they try to do something stupid like they did prior to Jobs coming on board with an attempt to be everything to everyone and fragment the product line up that it becomes overly expensive and complicated to manage inventories etc (look at the product and service line up before Steve Jobs rescued the company).

Where they do run the risk is this - their future relies very heavily on the high speed internet infrastructure being in place just like Microsoft's own service devision (but Microsoft has hedged its bets with their Surface hardware, XBox and other products/services) hence I've said in the past that Apple needs to buy out Adobe and expand their middleware massively along with updating their Mac Pro along with offering 'creative datacenters' located in the creative capitals (Hollywood etc) of the world so that upstarts and established players can offload their rendering to large datacenters on a per hourly basis which is linked back into the middleware rather than the companies having to invest in their own datacenters. What Apple needs is more than just off sales but re-occuring revenue to keep investors happy and for Apple to survive long term.
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Normally I stay away from threads like this:

But what the problem Apple is facing now is Steve Jobs....
Now before people go ape dung about that comment ... let me explain..
It is because no matter who or whom they put up to head the company, the media as well as the public will always compare that person to him.

In other words the new head could double sales figures, but people will always say-- "STEVE started the company with nothing but a dream.... in a garage."

that is just my 2 cents and I hope people will actually read this instead of just going off...

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[quote name='Mr Nom Nom's' timestamp='1367467786' post='595668472']
Oh Jesus Christ not this crap again - geeks on forums demanding change for the sake of change whilst at the same time screaming to the top of their lungs when Microsoft tries to do something slightly 'out of left field' with their GUI design. Apple isn't dying but the competition is getting better and quite frankly it won't matter how much Apple change the end of the day there are more people who want to have more different devices on offer than it is practical for any single organisation to cater for. End of the day the question is whether Apple is willing to accept that they'll never have the massive marketshare they had before (of which they gained off the back of the competition being on the back foot) or whether they try to do something stupid like they did prior to Jobs coming on board with an attempt to be everything to everyone and fragment the product line up that it becomes overly expensive and complicated to manage inventories etc (look at the product and service line up before Steve Jobs rescued the company).

Where they do run the risk is this - their future relies very heavily on the high speed internet infrastructure being in place just like Microsoft's own service devision (but Microsoft has hedged its bets with their Surface hardware, XBox and other products/services) hence I've said in the past that Apple needs to buy out Adobe and expand their middleware massively along with updating their Mac Pro along with offering 'creative datacenters' located in the creative capitals (Hollywood etc) of the world so that upstarts and established players can offload their rendering to large datacenters on a per hourly basis which is linked back into the middleware rather than the companies having to invest in their own datacenters. What Apple needs is more than just off sales but re-occuring revenue to keep investors happy and for Apple to survive long term.
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Crap, you just don't get it. OS X haven't got any unique new feature ever since OS X Lion and majority is inspire by iOS which is nothing new. Everything you wrote about Apple is like a storyteller and insinuate that most of us here don't know Apple history.

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[quote name='Master of Earth' timestamp='1367469365' post='595668486'] Crap, you just don't get it. OS X haven't got any unique new feature ever since OS X Lion and majority is inspire by iOS which is nothing new. Everything you wrote about Apple is like a storyteller and insinuate that most of us here don't know Apple history. [/quote]

Again, you're full of crap - the fact that you're hanging on the edge of your seat waiting for 'teh features' tells me you sure as hell don't represent the vast majority of users who just want to use their computer with minimal fuss and bother. The vast majority turn on their computer and use it as a launch pad to load their applications - the battle is about providing a coherent experience which is why Microsoft has been pushing the Surface. That is the future of the IT world - either suck it up and take it like a man or shut the hell up.

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[quote name='redvamp128' timestamp='1367468990' post='595668484']
But what the problem Apple is facing now is Steve Jobs....
Now before people go ape dung about that comment ... let me explain..
It is because no matter who or whom they put up to head the company, the media as well as the public will always compare that person to him.
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...on the Internet.

Remember, people in the real world don't give a crap about any of this for the most part. We forum goers, redditors, 4channers, etc. don't count as being the general population. :p

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[quote name='dead.cell' timestamp='1367470914' post='595668500']
...on the Internet.

Remember, people in the real world don't give a crap about any of this for the most part. We forum goers, redditors, 4channers, etc. don't count as being the general population. :p
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Actually you are somewhat right--

The general public just wonders "When is the next Iphone coming out. and what new wonderful features it will have."
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Made me laugh

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[quote name='dead.cell' timestamp='1367465416' post='595668444']
You mean like the App store? Every customer I've shown that's new to Macs loves the idea. I personally like it as well, though being on Windows, it's sort of a joke with the current app quality right now, but that's whole 'nother story.
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Apps in Windows 8? You mean like all my games, Steam, VLC, VM Ware, FML encoder, Winamp, MediaEspresso, Handbrake etc? OS X doesn't have the "apps" that windows has. I doubt it ever will.

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[quote name='Open Minded' timestamp='1367506598' post='595669086']
Apps in Windows 8? You mean like all my games, Steam, VLC, VM Ware, FML encoder, Winamp, MediaEspresso, Handbrake etc? OS X doesn't have the "apps" that windows has. I doubt it ever will.
[/quote]I think he meant the quality of apps currently in the Windows App store.
And there are OSX versions of Steam, VLC, VM Ware, Winamp and Handbrake.
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[quote name='cooky560' timestamp='1367421992' post='595667274']
I am fast losing faith in Apple. OSX 10.8 bought slowdowns in favour of iOS features, which I don't get.

The new iMacs have got both slower HDDs (21") than previous models and less ram slots (21") than previous models, while costing $100 more.

The iPhone 5 is just another iPhone. An awesome phone sure, but it's all been seen before by last years model.

In short Apple need to re-evaluate what they are doing to their software.
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You mean like what Jonathan Ive is doing on iOS 7?

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[quote name='keuka' timestamp='1367509341' post='595669164']


You mean like what Jonathan Ive is doing on iOS 7?
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Please, do tell us. What exactly is he doing besides implementing WP8 ideas?

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[quote name='virtorio' timestamp='1367507431' post='595669106']
I think he meant the quality of apps currently in the Windows App store.
And there are OSX versions of Steam, VLC, VM Ware, Winamp and Handbrake.
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Yes, thanks for clarifying. (Y)

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The next few years should be pretty interesting for Apple. Steve Jobs passed at a real interesting time for computing with the shift towards more mobile centric UI. I would like to see Apple focus more on OS X and the desktop side again, however at the same time, OS X is pretty darn perfect and feature complete. I don't see what more they can add to it with out some serious changes. I believe Johnny Ives will bring a new fresh look to iOS which will also translate to OS X.

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^ Yes, I can see Ives changing everything.

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