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#46 syobon999

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 12:47

paid or not this is way bigger than sp2 was to xp or windows 7 to vista.


#47 OP zeroomegazx

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 17:10

stick a fork in this, MS just announced its going to be FREE!

#48 rseiler

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 17:29

It would be nice to know, though, if slipstreamed ISOs will be made available as is done for OS SPs.

#49 Roger H.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 17:57

Probably not to the general public but for those with TechNet and such you will more than likely get the full ISO already integrated.

#50 adrynalyne

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 18:07

paid or not this is way bigger than sp2 was to xp or windows 7 to vista.


I disagree, at least on the Vista to 7 point.

#51 George P

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 18:17

It's going to be free, dunno about the next one though. If it's 8.5 or 9 then it won't be free in 2014.

#52 Kaze23

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 18:32

If Win 8.1 fails MS will have to roll out Sp 2 for Win 7 To have time to get Win 9 ready


Considering a service pack is just a rollup of previously released hotfixes, I'm sure there will be a SP2 regardless of 8's sales. XP had a SP3 despite the "failure" of Vista.


Both incorrect.

1. MS doesn't "have" to do anything of the sort.

2. They've done away with service packs. Windows 7 is not getting an SP2.

#53 chrisj1968

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 18:39

Nobody, but a lot of people are still stuck in 'SP mode', and are way to spoiled by all the free updates. Remember the SP's on XP, some of them were full upgrades of the OS. What if MS charged for those at that point?
Justified? Or not?

We all know that MS is moving it's pace for the Windows releases, so expect more updates, and expect some payment for these updates. As someone earlier said in this thread, MS is not a charity. And why would Apple be able to do so, but MS wouldn't. And don't start with the 'the updates are cheaper", as the Apple hardware already payed for most of it.....


Free updates? we bought into an OS and then backlash because it didn't deliver what people expected, ( start button, boot to desktop.. etc..). The issue is, MS needs to build trust in their brand. not the other way around. I'd venture to say that, anyone who says it shouldn't be free to bring a windows that hopefully most will be happy with, needs to realize that there is a legal term called something like warranty, getting what you expect from what you pay for. If it doesn't perform as a user would expect, that's the issue.

recently, maybe yesterday or a day before that, the lady who was interviewed about the windows update or windows blue. MS seems to have taken alot of flack over things as the start button and whatever else. but not everyone was satisfied with what Windows 8 brought to the table. the lady at the interview did in factsay it was supposed to be an OS for tablets, laptops and desktops, trying to be the OS for everyone.

#54 moloko

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 18:42

They will not bring back the start bar. Get used to it. LOL.

#55 The_Observer

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 21:07

I say Windows 8.1 is nothing more than a service pack!

#56 +warwagon

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 21:08

Both incorrect.

1. MS doesn't "have" to do anything of the sort.

2. They've done away with service packs. Windows 7 is not getting an SP2.


So then everyone just gets to install 300 updates after every fresh install?

#57 Tony.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 21:09

I say Windows 8.1 is nothing more than a service pack!


:/

Clearly it isn't.

#58 Stoffel

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 21:11

I say Windows 8.1 is nothing more than a service pack!

Then you either don't know what a service pack in general is, or you have no clue about all the extra features in this Win 8.1 update. Take a pick :)

#59 George P

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 21:18

MS doesn't have to release a SP2 for Win7, but they can release a SR (security rollup), iirc. Those are just all the individual files from WU but put into one big file/patch that you can use to slipstream for future installs. Service Packs different in that they also have bug fixes not found through WU because they're minor. I can't remember the last time MS did one, maybe it was for XP?

#60 Kaze23

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 22:58

So then everyone just gets to install 300 updates after every fresh install?


Windows 7 users will have to, unless Micorosft releases an update rollup like they did for Windows 2000 near the end of its life cycle. From here on in updates like 8.1/Blue will be replacing service packs.