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#16 McKay

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 00:08

But where were the ice caps during the prehistoric times when Earths temperature / climate was much, much higher and creatures were huge like the Titanoboa, Megalodon etc etc... :shiftyninja:


They didn't exist. In Earths normal climate there should be a Jungle in the Antarctic. If there are any standing bodies of Ice on the Earth like there are now it's classed as an Ice Age. We are still technically in one. The melting is inevitable. If Mankind never existed all that would probably happen is the melt would slow down.


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Posted 05 May 2013 - 00:51

They didn't exist. In Earths normal climate there should be a Jungle in the Antarctic. If there are any standing bodies of Ice on the Earth like there are now it's classed as an Ice Age. We are still technically in one. The melting is inevitable. If Mankind never existed all that would probably happen is the melt would slow down.


There is a bigger issue. Because we have greatly accelerated the warming process, if there is one, nature cannot catch up through evolution to evolve us, and all the current animals on earth to adapt to the heat. Thus, animals that would of adapted to a more "normal" temperature if the process was natural there would not be mass extinctions as there are now. We as humans are not immune either. Cancers, heat stroke, head aches, etc have all increased because of our activities. We have not only increased our carbon emissions that heat up the planet but we have also chemically changed our atmosphere to contain toxins that are not found in nature, such as PCB's, and toxins that are not normally air borne... such as asbestos. All of this contributes to the degredation of ecosystems, resulting in more carbon releases than normal.

For example, Acid Rain was a major problem in the 1960's-1980's and still is to an extent. It is toxic to plant and animal life. In Sudbury Ontario, Acid Rain destroyed 1000's of Hectares of forest. Since forests are 'Heat Sinks', these forests were not absorbing carbon but releasing it exponentially. Additionally, Oceans are major heat sinks, and with deforestation, and warming of the atmosphere, these two heat sinks cannot offset each other as they used to, resulting in even more accelerated atmospheric carbon increases.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 02:07

Climate change is worse because of HAARP-like technologies as well. It's safe to say that the amount of experiment they are doing with the atmosphere is extremely bad.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 02:58

So basically it took less than 300 years since the start of the Industrial Revolution for humans to ruin the planet?

Way to go!

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 03:17

So basically it took less than 300 years since the start of the Industrial Revolution for humans to ruin the planet?

Way to go!


Yes, humans have become a virus. Our population exploded to a level that the planet could not sustain, so we genetically modified life so it can grow faster, bigger with the nutrients we need. Now that food is altering our chemistry... cancers, mutations, muscular diseases, etc.

In my opinion, the industrial revolution was the greatest event to happen to our planet. It increased our knowledge, it increased our lifespan (40yr life expectancy, to 80+yrs now), however, we did not take control of our breeding. Everything that is wrong with our planet today that is caused by humans links back to population. I completely agree that climate change and global warming are our fault and we need to take action. We also need to take action on population growth, but at the same time, I read an article that stated in the next 15 years when 90% of baby boomers retire, we in the west will be ****ed with the majority of our population requiring support. 7.5/10 Western Citizens will be in hospital or a retirement home by 2025 according to Health Canada.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 03:40

this should be in conspiracy section since so many people believe that global warming it's just a bunch of lies :laugh:


Climate change is real, but its been happening ever since the earth was formed.

The "bunch of lies" bit, is that its man made, and that by paying a LOT of taxes, and armies of scientists/public servants, we can stop it.

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 04:39

what can people do?

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 23:48

^ Build a long Space hose and pump water to Mars ... ? :shifty:

#24 Growled

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 23:55

It's probably too late to sound an alarm.



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