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#61 DocM

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 20:27

More thought crimes, like that Pop-Tart gun. Todays America is like 1984 and Idiocracy got together and had a baby.


Precisely.


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Posted 11 May 2013 - 00:15

Im with the school the kid shouldn't be emulating his dad even if he is a solider.... im sure the dad would agree. If I was a soldier and I never will be, I would not want my kid glorifying it, Plus someone could have got hurt with the pencils.



You've had a very sad and lonely life, haven't you?

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 00:42

I hope you don't have any children until you fully understand parenthood. Who calls their child "it", or say the child they created is not theirs? Your child is yours and your property until they are 18.


No I don't but that fact combined with my reading on radical parenting and the faults of convention makes be unbiased. I call it it since I don't know if my first child would be a she or he. The child would be "mine" legally but not my property to boss around mould and control.

Children are NOT your property. You're responsible for them, but you do not own them. You clearly don't have any kids, or if you do, you're a dreadful parent to have that kind of attitude.


Thank you this!

kids are going to be cold jacked up criminals with a parent who treats children as equal to a pet rat.


Not sure whos if it mine yes of course the children of authority driven parents are treated like rats, hell parents enforce there religion on children.

You've had a very sad and lonely life, haven't you?


Whats this got to do with anything.

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 14:17

Children are NOT your property. You're responsible for them, but you do not own them. You clearly don't have any kids, or if you do, you're a dreadful parent to have that kind of attitude.


You own your child until they are 18 years old unless they graduate at 17 and go to college. If you can tell your child what to do, how to do it, reward them or punish them, that makes them your property. Sure, if you go off the definition term then no they are not your property.

No I don't but that fact combined with my reading on radical parenting and the faults of convention makes be unbiased. I call it it since I don't know if my first child would be a she or he. The child would be "mine" legally but not my property to boss around mould and control.


Or you can use the term child instead of using the term it.

It's obvious you don't understand parenthood still, you mold and control your child until their 18 years old.

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 14:20

Or you can use the term child instead of using the term it.

It's obvious you don't understand parenthood still, you mold and control your child until their 18 years old. Please, show me where in the parenthood handbook that a child is not my property, because if that's the case I will start popping out kids to get more tax refunds.

People do that ya know, they have kids so they can live off the state.

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 14:27

People do that ya know, they have kids so they can live off the state.


Yeah, which is sad. But if I can have kids and not own them, then I'd start as well.

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 14:50

WE MUST HAVE MORE PENCIL CONTROL!!

*No more than 6 pencils per pack!
*More background checks when making any pencil purchase!
*Ban on all pencils larger than 1/2 inch in diameter and longer than 8 inches!

#68 KingCracker

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 14:58

WE MUST HAVE MORE PENCIL CONTROL!!

*No more than 6 pencils per pack!
*More background checks when making any pencil purchase!
*Ban on all pencils larger than 1/2 inch in diameter and longer than 8 inches!

Better ban those assault pencils lol.

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 15:31

You got to be kidding right? When you were young you never played cowboy and indian, or you acted out one of your favorite cartoon shows like GI Joe or Thundercats?
Boys do this all the time.
And the fact that you come from a country with no gun culture has nothing to do with it.



When they pointed at me and made noises, I stuck up my thumb, aimed my index finger and shot back :)


That would be the more sensible thing to do if you really would have an issue with boys being boys




I was thinking the same thing. Every young boy plays cops and robbers, or cowboys and indians. It isn't a precursor to violent behavior as they get older, LOL. It is little kids playing.

Better ban those assault pencils lol.


You mean mechanical pencils? Yeah. Or ban how much pencil lead they can hold :D

kids are going to be cold jacked up criminals with a parent who treats children as equal to a pet rat.


They are equally jacked up if they are treated as equal to an adult. There has to be some balance. Either extreme makes for a problem child.

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 17:38

Ok, I'll cut my wall of text down to something more readable then:

What is your thought process to come to this conclusion - how are you so sure you are correct ?
Why cant it be something else of that sort, how can it be so easily dismissed without further thought or investigation ?
Is it just a feeling, or are you working with something more tangible - i.e. you have the inside track to the inner workings of educational and government policy ?

That should get around your "I cant prove a negative" response.


There is nothing to corroborate (Verb: confirm or give support to) that this is anything more than stupidity on the part of the school administration.

I can't believe I am actually arguing that this isn't an example of some oppressive government plot. You think it is? Offer relevant evidence.

#71 Tuishimi

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 17:47

Im with the school the kid shouldn't be emulating his dad even if he is a solider.... im sure the dad would agree. If I was a soldier and I never will be, I would not want my kid glorifying it, Plus someone could have got hurt with the pencils.


We used to play "cops and robbers" at recess.

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 18:53

You own your child until they are 18 years old unless they graduate at 17 and go to college. If you can tell your child what to do, how to do it, reward them or punish them, that makes them your property. Sure, if you go off the definition term then no they are not your property.


No you don't, and no amount of your clearly screwed up reasoning makes it so. You're responsible for their upbringing, and you have certain rights in proscribing their behaviour to acceptable standards, but you do no, and never will, own them. They are people, and people are not property.

#73 Dinggus

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 22:12

No you don't, and no amount of your clearly screwed up reasoning makes it so. You're responsible for their upbringing, and you have certain rights in proscribing their behaviour to acceptable standards, but you do no, and never will, own them. They are people, and people are not property.


Alright, guess I'll start having children, and then let CPS take them after I claim them for a year.

#74 FloatingFatMan

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 22:17

Alright, guess I'll start having children, and then let CPS take them after I claim them for a year.


There is a world of difference between owning and being responsible for. You do not own your children, you're responsible for them. And no, with an attitude like that, don't have children. You're the type that should't breed, ever.

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 22:52

^ Like many who 'own' their wife or husband. :laugh: