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#31 McKay

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 01:28

is the printed gun fully functional?


Yes.


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Posted 10 May 2013 - 01:35

Yes.


No, you still need the firing pin installed (think that's the correct term) and this just a simple nail.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 01:35

I do believe fertilizer companies do keep records now and do inform the gov't if someone buys a large quantity.

#34 Shiranui

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 01:35

but fox usualy goes right wing, which in favor for gun ownership.

anyway, is the printed gun fully functional?


No, it requires additional metal components to work.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 01:45

How does having a Gun protect your Rights?


“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” So reads the Second Amendment to the Constitution.


Gives us the right to protect ourselves, and our rights, from our own government, and outside forces. Thats how it was originally intended. Probably one of the main reasons the US has not, and probably will not, be invaded and taken over. A invading entity not only has to deal with the US Military, but also a hell of a lot of American citizens that own one or more weapons. I know several people with hundreds of weapons and I am sure there are tons more.

This should help explain it more. While this was based a long time ago, it seems more and more pertinent to today as well...

http://idiotsguides....-bear-arms.html

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 01:52

well, guns doesn't prevent others if they just want to nukes the U.S and not invading it.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 02:06

Gives us the right to protect ourselves, and our rights, from our own government, and outside forces. Thats how it was originally intended. Probably one of the main reasons the US has not, and probably will not, be invaded and taken over. A invading entity not only has to deal with the US Military, but also a hell of a lot of American citizens that own one or more weapons. I know several people with hundreds of weapons and I am sure there are tons more.

This should help explain it more. While this was based a long time ago, it seems more and more pertinent to today as well...

http://idiotsguides....-bear-arms.html


I can't see how owning an unregistered plastic gun will in anyway help defend yourself from the american military, and I don't see how any invaders, that have somehow overpowered the american military and are now at your doorstep, would suddenly be stopped by the force of a few guns you may have laying around. Power in numbers I suppose is your reasoning, but have you ever observed a disorganized group of idiots in action before? I have, and we call it /b/.

It just seems like an excuse american's make for themselves to be allowed to own deadly weapons. I've lived in two separate first world nations with powerful armies (Canada and Australia) and I've yet to feel the need to protect myself from either of them. And to be honest any study I've seen or read on the ramifications of such liberal gun ownership ends with a less than appreciable result.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 02:23

Those plans should have never ended up on the internet in the first place.
There is no need for people to start making their own guns.



Quick better grab your copy fast before it's taken off the net






hahaha like it could ever be taken off the net


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Posted 10 May 2013 - 02:42

It was proposed during a time of tyrannical government. And look at where governments in the world are going today. If you don't agree that they're becoming more tyrannical then you need to wake up. I'm not sure in the situation in AU, but here in the US the government wants to have windows into every facet of our lives.

So let's see - you and likeminded people in one corner with say about 10 guns each? and then "tyrannical" US government in the other corner with Army, Marines, Air force, Drones and Nuclear weapons.

Should I grab popcorn? I guess not because it will be over by the time I start my first mouthful.

Never mind though, MOAR GUNS but with plastic this time. That will improve your chances.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 02:50

So now people can liberate the life out of Americans.
Nice.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 03:01

Who cares about the second amendment. This printed gun is a major problem overall, that news articles and people here seem to not understand or even mention.

Problems with a 3D gun that is home made.
1. Will bankrupt gun manufacturers and put 1000's of people on unemployment.
2. No way to trace or track the weapon. Build it, kill someone, melt it... within hours.
3. EVERYONE HAS ACCESS to a gun now. I no longer have to be a US citizen to obtain a gun legally. Any Terrorist, Murderer, Mafioso, etc no longer needs to go through the trouble of obtaining an illegal weapon. Just go home, sit with your family as the printer is printing a "document".
4. Can pass through metal detectors, especially if you use metal that doesn't go off on metal detectors. (I think metal detectors have a minimum limit on metal before they go off.)
5. 3D printed objects are incredibly light, easy to conceal and hide it almost anywhere.
6. If you have technologically competent children in your house, they can make it themselves without searching your house for a gun or finding one "accidentally."

Soo many more problems with this entire process that I cannot write it all down. I can also predict some "genius" figure out how to build a lethal bullet too using a 3D printer.

Einstein should of stated "Geniuses build technology to better the planet, but idiots will always try to weaponize it first."

In the foreseeable future, I can see 3D printers become illegal if 3D Printed weapons become a real problem. Thus, a great technology would forever be lost.

To my knowledge the supreme court hasn't outlawed any technology that can also be used for something illegal. Granted, there hasn't been any about printing guns.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 03:02

Quick better grab your copy fast before it's taken off the net

hahaha like it could ever be taken off the net


http://12160.info/fo...shorten_twitter


Your reply just doesn't make any sense at all

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 03:45

Who cares about the second amendment. This printed gun is a major problem overall, that news articles and people here seem to not understand or even mention.

Problems with a 3D gun that is home made.
1. Will bankrupt gun manufacturers and put 1000's of people on unemployment.
2. No way to trace or track the weapon. Build it, kill someone, melt it... within hours.
3. EVERYONE HAS ACCESS to a gun now. I no longer have to be a US citizen to obtain a gun legally. Any Terrorist, Murderer, Mafioso, etc no longer needs to go through the trouble of obtaining an illegal weapon. Just go home, sit with your family as the printer is printing a "document".
4. Can pass through metal detectors, especially if you use metal that doesn't go off on metal detectors. (I think metal detectors have a minimum limit on metal before they go off.)
5. 3D printed objects are incredibly light, easy to conceal and hide it almost anywhere.
6. If you have technologically competent children in your house, they can make it themselves without searching your house for a gun or finding one "accidentally."

Soo many more problems with this entire process that I cannot write it all down. I can also predict some "genius" figure out how to build a lethal bullet too using a 3D printer.

Einstein should of stated "Geniuses build technology to better the planet, but idiots will always try to weaponize it first."

In the foreseeable future, I can see 3D printers become illegal if 3D Printed weapons become a real problem. Thus, a great technology would forever be lost.




1. No they wont, plastic guns still wont be the same quality as professionally made metal ones.
2. Same can be said about other types of weapons. Stab someone and throw it in a river, odds are finding it are pretty damn low
3. Like that stops people now, tell that to criminals that dont have to be citizens now and still get them illegally.
4. TSA cant even stop metal guns and other weapons passing through metal detectors
5. Being light in weight doesn't equate to being more likely found if it's packed properly on a person
6. One that would imply that kids have easier access to these devices, sorry but these aren't made, yet, from makerbot type devices. They still require the more industrial style machines to make it, as well as access to bullets to fire it. Children have easier access to knives then they do to machines that can make a gun that would be strong enough to even work let alone the materials and bullets needed. Any kid with enough intent to actually pull that off wont let the lack of a 3D machine get in the way of them doing harm.


Your post is nothing more then FUD.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 03:50

Your reply just doesn't make any sense at all


The notion that you can even keep something off the net is asinine. There are very few things I believe should ever be censored, child porn being one of them and even that can't be kept off the net. These plans are online, they are not going anywhere, saying they shouldn't be allowed on the net is like yelling fire while pointing at smouldering remains, it's pointless.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 03:59

Trollololololol!

For those people who still believe their pea-shooters will allow them to fight a "tyrannical government".... good luck. I will just leave you with this video in celebration of VE-Day!