Muslims Clash on London Streets

[AsherGZ]

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But Pakistan supports today the Taliban via the ISI, was first to recognise along with Saudi Arabia the Taliban as the government of Afghanistan thus lending legitmacy to an extremist organisation and uses the Taliban to undermine Afhgani sovereignty on a near constant basis. Btw, drone strikes wouldn't be needed if Pakistani civilians didn't provide shelter for terrorist groups -check out pashtuwalli and its code for sheltering people regardless of whether the said people are criminals conducting terrorist activities.

Do you believe everything your media feeds you? Last we saw, the Taliban are targeting Pakistani citizens and our forces are being killed daily in skirmishes over the Waziristan border, while your drones kill hardly 2 terrorists along with 20 civilians. If there's such hard evidence of the ISI collaborating with terrorist organizations, why is the US still collaborating with us. Because seriously there's nothing that would make us more happy than if the US stopped forcing us to fight a war that isn't even ours to begin with. Or maybe its all fabricated to gain public support for continuing the war for a lost cause. After all it isn't hard for the CIA to fabricate evidence now is it? Ever thought maybe the US itself is collaborating with the Taliban because it doesn't want peace in the region? Remember the Raymond Davis episode? US veteran and Blackwater operative caught red handed in Islamabad making deals with Taliban officials which made the US look so bad that it spent sacks fulls of taxpayers dollars to keep some mouths shut? Our government needs to grow some balls and we need a leader like Ahmedinejad or Kim Jong who can stand up against US tyranny. And next time, do some research before believing everything you see on the telly.

[Noir Angel]

Hang on a sec what?

British society and culture is deteriorating day by day. It's utterly stupid for you to think that you somehow are culturally superior to anyone else. The UK is now a **** hole as much as, say, Pakistan is. We all know corruption is a daily part of life in both places, we are just better at hiding it here in the UK.

You think that domestic abuse is rare amongst the average white, English family? Have you ever visited a shelter? I would say over 90% of the women have been white and English in the last few years that I have been taking pro bono cases. Even in places like Manchester and Birmingham where the Asian and Black communities are far larger you will still see shelter/refuges being filled predominantly by white females.

Don't even talk about the millions and millions that are wasted from the tax payers fund on alcohol related crime every year. I live in the UK and I call it a **** hole.

I never said things were perfect here but it still beats the hell out of societies where women can't drive or vote, where child marriages are legal, and where teenage girls take a bullet to the brain for wanting an education.

[Azusa]

I felt it's related some how.

[Athernar]

British society and culture is deteriorating day by day. It's utterly stupid for you to think that you somehow are culturally superior to anyone else. The UK is now a **** hole as much as, say, Pakistan is. We all know corruption is a daily part of life in both places, we are just better at hiding it here in the UK.

Yeah, look at all those little girls we shoot and mutilate for wanting a basic education, just because our tribal theoculture tells us women are inferior.

You are mentally ill, seek help.

[TheElite]

Yeah, look at all those little girls we shoot and mutilate for wanting a basic education, just because our tribal theoculture tells us women are inferior.

You are mentally ill, seek help.

What? Are you serious? I never said that that's the correct way to live. You've been brainwashed just as much as the next anti-theist otherwise you wouldn't be spewing such nonsense.

My point was that if this crap (as in what you have spouted) happens elsewhere in the world, the polar opposite happens here. Get off your high horse and stop thinking that western countries are the epitome of perfection.

[Athernar]

What? Are you serious? I never said that that's the correct way to live. You've been brainwashed just as much as the next anti-theist otherwise you wouldn't be spewing such nonsense.

My point was that if this crap (as in what you have spouted) happens elsewhere in the world, the polar opposite happens here. Get off your high horse and stop thinking that western countries are the epitome of perfection.

You made your point very clearly when you established equivalence between Pakistan and the UK. Your intellectually pitiful attempt to divert attention away from this by making a false claim that I ever stated "the west" is perfect is laughable.

But then again, you probably don't even think women are people - just possessions for you to beat, mutilate and sell. So I can see why you'd be able to make such an equation. (See what I did there?)

[slapfacemcdougal]

Yeah, look at all those little girls we shoot and mutilate for wanting a basic education, just because our tribal theoculture tells us women are inferior.

You are mentally ill, seek help.

Again, you're only associating muslims with people from the middle east. Your use of the word Tribal says it all.

[Athernar]

Again, you're only associating muslims with people from the middle east. Your use of the word Tribal says it all.

The Abrahamic faiths are tribal religions by founding and the beliefs they set out echo this origin. Just because some individuals like to pretend that the undesirable parts don't exist (Which makes no sense) does not change this fact.

Issues stemming from Abrahamic theoculture is not exclusive to the middle east, so if anyone is (unintentionally) demonstrating ethnic bias here it is you.

[slapfacemcdougal]

The Abrahamic faiths are tribal religions by founding and the beliefs they set out echo this origin. Just because some individuals like to pretend that the undesirable parts don't exist (Which makes no sense) does not change this fact.

Issues stemming from Abrahamic theoculture is not exclusive to the middle east, so if anyone is (unintentionally) demonstrating ethnic bias here it is you.

So where is this barbarism outside of the middle east from muslims? You think it's only muslims that have "undesirable parts" of their religion? Think again. They all do, you're just singling out one because you don't like them.

[Athernar]

So where is this barbarism outside of the middle east from muslims? You think it's only muslims that have "undesirable parts" of their religion? Think again. They all do, you're just singling out one because you don't like them.

What part of "Abrahamic faiths" didn't you understand? Your reading comprehension is terrible.

[slapfacemcdougal]

What part of "Abrahamic faiths" didn't you understand? Your reading comprehension is terrible.

So why single out the minority of them and feel as though you should label them all under the same label?

[Athernar]

So why single out the minority of them and feel as though you should label them all under the same label?

You clearly aren't paying the slightest bit of attention to what is being posted, your question was already addressed before it was asked:

The Abrahamic faiths are tribal religions by founding and the beliefs they set out echo this origin. Just because some individuals like to pretend that the undesirable parts don't exist (Which makes no sense) does not change this fact.

Unlike ethnicity, you have the choice to associate yourself or not to associate yourself with these religions. If you don't like being labelled, don't associate yourself by saying you believe in their beliefs.

[Shiranui]

I'm no racist by any means, but please just get the f*** out of my country. It's a privilege to live here, not a right, and I'd rather extend that privilege to people that love the UK and actually want to be here.

No need to preface your comment with the phrase "I'm not a racist but ..." because Islam is not a race.

[Torolol]

^yes but muslims would loves to play 'racial' victims, whenever their religion is questioned, even if they are majority.

unfortunately some who dislike islam still fall for this tactics.

[TheElite]

So where is this barbarism outside of the middle east from muslims? You think it's only muslims that have "undesirable parts" of their religion? Think again. They all do, you're just singling out one because you don't like them.

His anti-Islamic sentiments ooze out from him, as if his mum ran away with a Muslim when he was younger. There's no point arguing with such a lost cause.

[Tigurinn]

:D

[Athernar]

His anti-Islamic sentiments ooze out from him, as if his mum ran away with a Muslim when he was younger. There's no point arguing with such a lost cause.

That wouldn't be possible though. Everyone knows Muslims have a preference for children, just look at their prophet - takes them at 9 years old.

Paedophile prophet, 'Nuff said.

[seta-san]

U.K., and Europe in general, if you want peace on your streets you have to abandon the idea of multiculturalism. It is, and always was, bull****. Everywhere on earth where two competing cultures live side-by-side there is always conflict and unrest. The most homogeneous societies are the most peaceful. Diversity was never a strength. Solidarity is. There is no solidarity in diversity unless one of the competing cultures is intent on giving up and dying. Export your foreigners and take back the streets that your forefathers built and bled in to secure a hard earned peace, prosperity, and freedom or be doomed to die and have the invading culture become the dominant one.

[Bryan R.]

I have to agree with the above but I know realistically it would never be accepted. Why? Humans are glorified animals. We are complicated but not much less primitive behaviorally. The Earth is large and has segregated us from each other which has led to several major cultures. These cultures have fought and clashed since forever. This all happens over hundreds of thousands of years and only in the last fifty have we been so closely connected. Yet we don't expect hatred and violence?! It's how we're programmed as animals! We band together in every. single. way. Yet the idealists would have us all live happily ever after when in fact reality states it will take many decades, perhaps even more than a century for future generations to homogenize and it will not be pretty. Technology will get us there but since we're devoid of patience it will be a violent process in every way.

[slapfacemcdougal]

That wouldn't be possible though. Everyone knows Muslims have a preference for children, just look at their prophet - takes them at 9 years old.

Paedophile prophet, 'Nuff said.

You're the most ignorant person I've ever seen.

[Dan~]

I just wish they'd demonstrate in their own country...

[seta-san]

You're the most ignorant person I've ever seen.

why do you say that? It says it in their own book. He took a 8/9 year old for a wife. How freaking disgusting. Islam should be shamed every day.

[Athernar]

You're the most ignorant person I've ever seen.

And yet everything I've posted has been accurate, meanwhile you've demonstrated a complete lack of even basic level reading comprehension.

So no, factually thus far you are the most ignorant person in this thread, come back when you actually have an argument - rather than just spamming the thread with your trash posts.

[FloatingFatMan]

why do you say that? It says it in their own book. He took a 8/9 year old for a wife. How freaking disgusting. Islam should be shamed every day.

Far be it for me to defend Muslims in this, but in that time period, they weren't the only ones taking small girls for wives. It was quite common in many societies.

[seta-san]

Far be it for me to defend Muslims in this, but in that time period, they weren't the only ones taking small girls for wives. It was quite common in many societies.

of that age? hell no. probably common marrying age at the time was probably between 13-18 which still isn't great but considering the average lifespan at the time it was understandable. also a girl of that age isn't like the girls today who are physically maturing much earlier. No matter how you break it down, Mohammed was a pedophile.