Jump to content



Photo

  • Please log in to reply
40 replies to this topic

#1 -Razorfold

-Razorfold

    Neowinian Senior

  • 9,809 posts
  • Joined: 16-March 06
  • OS: Windows 8
  • Phone: Nokia Lumia 900 / Oneplus One

Posted 11 May 2013 - 20:26

It will come as no surprise that Microsoft wants Apple to create a Windows 8 app of iTunes, the popular media player that also helps consumers manage iOS hardware and more. A desktop version of iTunes is available and works well in desktop mode on a Windows 8 machine, but what if you're running Windows RT or would like to enjoy a native experience?

So what's preventing an iTunes being listed on the Windows Store? Apple, according to CNN Money. Tami Reller, chief financial officer of Microsoft's Windows division, had the following to comment on the situation:

"You shouldn't expect an iTunes app on Windows 8 any time soon. ITunes is in high demand. The welcome mat has been laid out. It's not for lack of trying."

The Verge has added that iTunes is one of the most searched for apps on the Windows 8 Store, leading Microsoft to actively attempt to secure a native app for its consumer base. So what would a Windows 8 app bring to the platform? A native experience for a start, along with the ability to run on hardware powered by Windows RT.

A touch-friendly experience for those with such an interface would put Apple's media player on the same level as Microsoft's own Xbox Music. The desktop mode is useful, especially if you have a mouse (or similar pointer device) at hand, but it can prove trick to use iTunes with the finger.

So why isn't Apple in a hurry to get an app developed for Microsoft's new desktop UI? It could well be Windows 8 is a competitor to its own OSX and the company already has a desktop version available. It's hard to say when Apple will look to introduce a native app for windows 8, but is the desktop version enough? Let us know your thoughts in the comments.


Source: http://www.wpcentral...snt-liking-idea


#2 Javik

Javik

    Beware the tyrrany of those that wield power

  • 5,992 posts
  • Joined: 21-May 12

Posted 11 May 2013 - 20:30

Why? the desktop version of iTunes, despite being a complete piece of junkware is already fit for the purpose it serves. Creating a ModernUI version of it isn't something that Apple have any need to do at all.

#3 Max Norris

Max Norris

    Neowinian Senior

  • 4,929 posts
  • Joined: 20-February 11
  • OS: Windows 7/8.1, BSD Unix, Arch Linux
  • Phone: HTC One (Home) Lumia 1020 (Work)

Posted 11 May 2013 - 20:33

Why?

Windows RT devices?

#4 George P

George P

    Neowinian Senior

  • 19,309 posts
  • Joined: 04-February 07
  • Location: Greece
  • OS: Windows 8.1 Pro 64bit
  • Phone: HTC Windows Phone 8X

Posted 11 May 2013 - 20:36

Apple have to pay 30% instead? Never! /s

On a serious note, it's not the same, if they did do it, it'd be a free app, and MS doesn't block or want a piece of any in-app purchases like Apple is asking for on iOS. All in all I don't see why it would bother them to make one.

#5 OP -Razorfold

-Razorfold

    Neowinian Senior

  • 9,809 posts
  • Joined: 16-March 06
  • OS: Windows 8
  • Phone: Nokia Lumia 900 / Oneplus One

Posted 11 May 2013 - 20:39

Apple have to pay 30% instead? Never! /s

On a serious note, it's not the same, if they did do it, it'd be a free app, and MS doesn't block or want a piece of any in-app purchases like Apple is asking for on iOS. All in all I don't see why it would bother them to make one.

Well not strictly true for the second bit. If you use Microsoft's payment backend/system then MS takes a cut from in-app purchases. However, you are free to use any payment processor you choose and then you keep 100% of the revenue.

Apple already has their own payment processor so it makes sense they would use that if they were to make an app and hence MS gets nothing from it.

#6 Davo

Davo

    Neowinian

  • 1,399 posts
  • Joined: 15-September 06

Posted 11 May 2013 - 21:03

I can't even imagine how much worse iTunes would be in ModernUI form.

#7 +devHead

devHead

    Get Off The Bandwagon, Put Down The Handbook

  • 2,766 posts
  • Joined: 08-August 01
  • Location: Arizona... Among The Trees
  • OS: Windows 8.1 Pro
  • Phone: Nokia Lumia 521

Posted 11 May 2013 - 21:08

Who really needs Apple's bloated piece of crapware as a Windows 8 App?

#8 f0rk_b0mb

f0rk_b0mb

    Neowinian Senior

  • 2,499 posts
  • Joined: 02-June 12

Posted 11 May 2013 - 21:18

^ All of this "iTunes is bloatware we don't need you...blah...blah...blah" is an absolute garbage excuse from 2006.


I can honestly see them makeing a Linux version before a Metro version. OS X is technically BSD (UNIX) so in theory, it shouldn't be that hard.

#9 thealexweb

thealexweb

    Neowinian Senior

  • 7,316 posts
  • Joined: 23-September 07
  • Location: United Kingdom

Posted 11 May 2013 - 21:48

Lots of people saying why its needed, explains in the article its one of the most searched for apps.

#10 Deactivated.

Deactivated.

  • 2,635 posts
  • Joined: 04-December 01

Posted 11 May 2013 - 21:58

its one of the most searched for apps.

Assuming they're not just talking about RT there, simply add a link to the Desktop version to the Store, just like MS does for their Office suite. Problem solved, for Windows 8 users at least. I mean, I thought that was the whole point of having a "no compromise" OS. Companies are not about to rewrite all of their software products when the existing version (that allows them to reach practically every Windows user) runs just fine on Windows 8 - unless users start to show an overwhelming interest in Metro and Windows RT specifically.

#11 theyarecomingforyou

theyarecomingforyou

    Tiger Trainer

  • 16,635 posts
  • Joined: 07-August 03
  • Location: Terra Prime Profession: Jaded Sceptic
  • OS: Windows 10 Preview
  • Phone: Galaxy Note 3 with Galaxy Gear

Posted 11 May 2013 - 22:22

Microsoft wouldn't need to attract iTunes if its Music app was actually fit for purpose. If it wants developers to get onboard then it has to lead by example and it simply isn't doing that.

#12 FloatingFatMan

FloatingFatMan

    Resident Fat Dude

  • 16,017 posts
  • Joined: 23-August 04
  • Location: UK

Posted 11 May 2013 - 22:42

This was on the front page a few days ago, and I mentioned why it's unlikely then, too.

iTunes is a cross-compiled app that ignores every single UI design guideline MS ever wrote for Windows. It uses its own libraries, it's own UI, even its own font rendering etc. To make it work on RT they would have to completely rewrite it from scratch, and learn all the Windows RT framework as well as much of the Windows API.

There's just no way Apple would bother, otherwise they'd have a native Windows version for the desktop already.

#13 lmaobox

lmaobox

    Neowinian

  • 145 posts
  • Joined: 12-November 12

Posted 11 May 2013 - 23:05

Who really needs Apple's bloated piece of crapware as a Windows 8 App?


iTunes is actually a very decent music player.

#14 primexx

primexx

    Neowinian Senior

  • 12,771 posts
  • Joined: 24-April 05

Posted 11 May 2013 - 23:08

people still use itunes?

#15 Rigby

Rigby

    Neowinian Senior

  • 7,039 posts
  • Joined: 08-August 05

Posted 11 May 2013 - 23:12

people still use itunes?


No, no one owns an ipod/iphone/ipad anymore.