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#31 Snake89

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 14:05

I'm shocked people still even buy music today when you got access to a ton of free music stream services.


#32 Dot Matrix

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 14:14

I'm shocked people still even buy music today when you got access to a ton of free music stream services.


I'll admit, there isn't very much music today that I would drop cash for. But, I still support the artists I like.

#33 nathanmnm

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 14:39

I can see why people want iTunes on w8 however it would have to be done by apple and I can't see what's in it for them. Apple would prefer you to use a Mac, if you don't want to that's fine but they should make your life simpler because? Microsoft just want w8 to appear useful so as usual we can safely ignore them I.e they do not have the customers interests at heart.

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 14:58

Even if the app is crap, the people "searching" for iTunes on windows 8, are the type of people who don't care. They just want to sync their device, and play the music they purchased.

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 16:54

It's not just a question of how much RAM is being used. iTunes is not at all optimised for Windows. It is sluggish on all configurations. The UI is also a bit quirky.



i am on a Core i7 and it is nowhere near sluggish it is fast and fluid on my end . now i dont know t he last itunes you ran but the current version works just fine in windows and is fast now in the past older version were somewhat sluggish but not the latest version.

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 17:27

If Microsoft so desperately what iTunes then they would let vendors to compile their win32 applications for ARM and allow side loading - but then Microsoft wouldn't be able to get their cut of the action.

But if iTunes existed on the AppStore, Microsoft wouldn't be getting any cut of the revenue.

The only way Microsoft gets money is:

1. Your app is a paid app through the AppStore
2. You include in-app purchases using Microsoft's payment systems. (Unlike Apple which forces you to a revenue split for in-app purchase)
3. The $99 developer registration

You can avoid 1 and 2 quite easily by making your app free and then processing all payments through another provider, which is what Apple would most likely do. I mean sure they'd have to pay the $99 registration fee, but it's not like that's going to break the bank.

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Posted 12 May 2013 - 19:13

I wouldn't touch an Apple app with a million foot pole. iTunes is a complete waste of bits on the desktop, and a Metro app wouldn't be any better.


Actually, iTunes works great well. Easy to share media across your home and mobile devices..

It wouldn't be that bad of an idea for Microsoft to integrate more with iTunes..

You have to think bigger than fanboy BS.. it is all about business..

#38 Mr Nom Nom's

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 01:17

But if iTunes existed on the AppStore, Microsoft wouldn't be getting any cut of the revenue.

The only way Microsoft gets money is:

1. Your app is a paid app through the AppStore
2. You include in-app purchases using Microsoft's payment systems. (Unlike Apple which forces you to a revenue split for in-app purchase)
3. The $99 developer registration

You can avoid 1 and 2 quite easily by making your app free and then processing all payments through another provider, which is what Apple would most likely do. I mean sure they'd have to pay the $99 registration fee, but it's not like that's going to break the bank.


The AppStore doesn't sell 'classic' win32 applications - it only sell's modernUI applications and provides links to third party stores so that one can purchase 'classic' win32 applications. Again Microsoft has two choices, either open up win32 for ARM based applications so one can side load or expand WinRT/XAML to cover desktop applications - Microsoft refuses to do either and thus Apple has decided not to bring iTunes to Windows 8 natively.

#39 FloatingFatMan

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 04:45

Again Microsoft has two choices, either open up win32 for ARM based applications so one can side load or expand WinRT/XAML to cover desktop applications - Microsoft refuses to do either and thus Apple has decided not to bring iTunes to Windows 8 natively.


That's as likely as Apple opening up their store.

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Posted 13 May 2013 - 04:55

Well, good news. Looks like it's actually a good thing that there's no iTunes in Metroland. Because "real music lovers", unlike grandma, apparently have stopped buying music (and presumably stopped playing the music they already own) and "are turning increasingly to online subscription services".

Apple not making iTunes for a modern system like Windows 8/RT makes sense.


Sure does. :)

#41 Mr Nom Nom's

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 07:00

Well, good news. Looks like it's actually a good thing that there's no iTunes in Metroland. Because "real music lovers", unlike grandma, apparently have stopped buying music (and presumably stopped playing the music they already own) and "are turning increasingly to online subscription services".

Sure does. :)


Way to go extrapolating an experience in the US of A to everyone outside the US of A. Some of us have metered internet connections and the subscription services refuse to serve customers outside a small handful of countries.