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What's the best way to win a game of chance? Turn it into a game of certainty.

That, a British casino is charging, is exactly what world-renowned poker player Phil Ivey did in winning

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even if its card design defect, it still the fault of the casino of USING such card.
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casino is clearly at fault. did they agree not to change decks? yes. how is it his fault? its not.

i want to know how this developes.

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"[color=#282828]He loves anything where there's some sexiness at stake."[/color]

[color=#282828]LOL, Sounds like a right nipple.[/color]

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Seems like a tough case - they need to prove that the cards were distinguishable AND that the player used that fact to cheat.
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^ And, was the guy near-sighted ?

I honestly would be hard pressed to notice card defects, let alone profit from them.

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The card had a distinct design on the back side, so regardless of what side was face up you could tell what it was. That's like playing with all of the cards from the deck face up for you to see what they are and them expecting you to not base your decision off of what cards you see on the top of the deck.

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So when he was in the hole of $700k.. could he have refused to pay the casino?
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[quote name='Relativity_17' timestamp='1368461348' post='595687580']
Seems like a tough case - they need to prove that the cards were distinguishable AND that the player used that fact to cheat.
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It's still the casino's fault. It's not cheating unless he does something to alter the game. Just observing cards the casino deals out is not cheating.
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Unless they can prove how they cheated I guess its an open and shut case.


[quote name='Growled' timestamp='1368474056' post='595687954']Just observing cards the casino deals out is not cheating.
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Card counting is one they dont like

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That's the best they could come up with?

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[quote name='arachnoid' timestamp='1368474345' post='595687970']
Unless they can prove how they cheated I guess its an open and shut case.




Card counting is one they dont like
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They might not like it, but counting cards is not illegal, they "discourage" it, or will ask you to leave, they also prevent you from having any electronics or anything, but counting cards is 100% legal.
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casino's fault for not following their standard rules of switching the cards out after they were used....

they were stupid, he was smart, but not a cheater
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[quote name='arachnoid' timestamp='1368474345' post='595687970']
Unless they can prove how they cheated I guess its an open and shut case.




Card counting is one they dont like
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Yeah but when you are counting cards you are doing something outside of the casino control (the only thing they can do is ask you to leave i think).

In this case if what the casino says is true then he was able to pull this off only because the cards used by the casino was defective/used. Replacing the cards would have solved the issue.

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Wow, how ignorant can you be to not change the cards... This place deserves to lose the money. I think the pit bosses need to go back to casino 101.

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