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#1 Simon-

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 05:56

You see; this is why I hardly visit this website anymore, because of stupid articles like this.
http://www.neowin.ne...idest-rule-ever

Title of the article: Eric Schmidt: Google's 'Don't Be Evil' motto is "the stupidest rule ever"
Quote in the article:

...the idea was that we don't quite know what evil is, but if we have a rule that says don't be evil, then employees can say, I think that's evil.

So what happens is, I'm sitting in this meeting, and we're having this debate about an advertising product. And one of the engineers pounds his fists on the table and says, that's evil. And then the whole conversation stops, everyone goes into conniptions, and eventually we stopped the project. So it did work.



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Actual Quote:

Well, it was invented by Larry and Sergey. And the idea was that we don't quite know what evil is, but if we have a rule that says don't be evil, then employees can say, I think that's evil. Now, when I showed up, I thought this was the stupidest rule ever, because there's no book about evil except maybe, you know, the Bible or something.

So what happens is, I'm sitting in this meeting, and we're having this debate about an advertising product. And one of the engineers pounds his fists on the table and says, that's evil. And then the whole conversation stops, everyone goes into conniptions, and eventually we stopped the project. So it did work.


I have put bold on the line that Neowin conveniently omitted from the quote, and then butchered into: stating that it's "the stupidest rule ever" as "there's no book about evil except maybe, you know, the Bible or something" as part of the main text.

They key text which Neowin has removed is Now, when I showed up, I thought this was. This completely changes the meaning of what he said.

He did not say Google's 'Don't Be Evil' motto is "the stupidest rule ever"
He said "when I showed up, I thought this was the stupidest rule ever". The operative word is WAS, and that is BEFORE he actually started working for he company.

It amazes me that Neowin treats their readership with such discontent and it has dwindled from a flourishing community that had 1,000+ registered members & 10,000+ guests online on the forums at any time of the day or night to now just 74 registered members online & 1578 guests (Probably came from Google searches to old topics) currently.

The news articles have gone from finding the best technology news articles aggregated to the front page, to stupid stunts like this which are even worse than the likes of the Daily Mail all to appease a core group of fanatics who love nothing more than to worship a particular company rather than to have a look at the full spectrum of technology from all companies. And Neowin don't pretend that it isn't headline grabbing for advertising revenue, because we know it is.


#2 spy beef

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 06:10

I disagree

#3 javagreen

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 06:10

Not this again.

#4 Nashy

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 06:16

You still came back.

#5 Tha Bloo Monkee

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 06:22

:laugh:

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#6 Nick H.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 06:35

Another day, another complaint...

Rewrite the article. Or if you disagree with an article, write an opposing piece. It may get picked up and put on the front page. Failing that, show your support (or lack thereof) for the site by leaving.

These, "I'm out of here" and "this site has really let itself go" threads are getting tiresome. The number of times that someone has complained and then done nothing to provide an example of the quality they expect are silly.

#7 +V-Tech

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 06:54

I learned from life experience (and specially from work) - "Dont show me problems, show me solutions".

Everyone can come up with tons of problems but it's much harder to come up with solutions. If you wanted to leave the website we wouldnt have seen this comment from you. If you think that someone wrote something wrong or brought up wrong facts you can always counter with your own opinion or bring a better proof/fact.

Staff here are reasonable and i believe that if someone had a mistake they can fix it.

#8 Steven P.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 07:08

It must really hurt coming up against an article that you felt missed an important point among thousands. This is why I created the Moderating is a thankless task thread, people just don't appreciate the amount of effort and cost that goes into keeping this website current, one article (in your opinion) fudges up and all of a sudden "we're going downhill" :rofl:

Edit: I see someone took the correct action and reported the issue, don't let this stop you next time Simon- We appreciate constructive criticism and feedback, but not beatings ;)

#9 vetScorpus

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 07:18

Actually I'll take the blame for this one, it wasn't my intention to change the meaning of what he said, I shortened the quote for length reasons - I thought I already included the rest of the sentence in the article body. I completely overlooked the fact that removing that portion changed the context.

My bad

#10 Haggis

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 07:41

BAD TIM!!! lol

dont know why people find it so hard to just click the report button and make the staff aware

#11 MikeChipshop

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 07:46

BAD TIM!!! lol

dont know why people find it so hard to just click the report button and make the staff aware


That's what i do, and often if it was something the original author overlooked, they'll correct as necessary. Job done!

#12 +Frank B.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 07:46

BAD TIM!!! lol

dont know why people find it so hard to just click the report button and make the staff aware

It's easier and more hip to complain instead of communicating with the staff I reckon.

#13 Haggis

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 07:48

It's easier and more hip to complain instead of communicating with the staff I reckon.


I have reported you for being different...lol :p

#14 Steven P.

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 07:51

I have reported you for being different...lol :p


Added warn for abusing report system.










not really.

#15 arachnoid

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Posted 14 May 2013 - 08:15

To berate such a site for an error of making a misquote is going a tad far don't ya think given the main broadsheets will intentionally twist major political statements to their editorial needs.Post a correction and pat yourself on the back for being so observant, just don't lose the plot over it and don't be confusing Neowin with The Daily Planet.



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