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So, I ended up moving my phone back to Android. Windows Phone 8 is lacking some serious customization that I require.


I had the Lumia since late last year and here is my top list for Windows Phone 8/Lumia 920 (It wouldn't be fair to say things that either iOS/Android doesn't do, so I won't):
* VPN. This is a must for me and my work. Android and iOS have had it for years. This is a windows phone!
* Every time I use Pandora, if a Bluetooth device connects, it starts, if it disconnects, it starts again. So, I can pause the music. Get out of my car and my phone starts blaring whatever song was on.
* Pandora app doesn't work with my car (Chevy Volt)
* USAA application disappeared and I deposit checks with it.
* Finding an address is easier on Android for me. I simply say the address and it goes there. I don't have the same experience on the Window's phone.
* I feel very restricted when developing an application for Window's devices.

Good luck Microsoft. I wish you would open your platform up more. I feel like I am in jail. The same really goes for Windows 8. I think App permissions is very important and should always be part of the experience. But, to limit these permissions is a mistake. The coolest things really come from developers hacking devices.

So, I'm going back to developing for Android. I'll miss Visual Studio as it is a great studio.

For reference, I have developed some simple applications for both platforms that have some downloads. My most popular application was City Caller ID for Android. It was pulled due to patent restrictions. But, I still love that I could make an application that can do these things! This is simply not possible on Windows Phone or iOS.

http://phandroid.com/2010/02/23/lawsuit-city-caller-id-application-pulled-from-market/






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[quote name='GP007' timestamp='1369076209' post='595700544']
Podcast support will expand to other markets with the next update. If that's the only problem you have with it then I'd say you should wait instead of doing a total switch.

I'd have to have a long list of issues to think about switching but I don't. I paid for my 8X unlocked upfront and expect to keep it for at least 2 years.
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There is this stupid no podcast download over 100 meg and not on power. I have not found one that auto downloads as they come out. The built in one seems to jump back at random intervals, there is not one that supports a password protected podcast feed. If anyone has a app that works as good as pocket casts then please let me know! It might keep me using Lumia 920

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[quote name='vcfan' timestamp='1369017265' post='595699314']
good for you. complaining about certain features or limitations that existed and you knew about before you purchased the device is just a whiny thing to do. i hope you enjoy your malware,and info stealing apps, useless back button, the lag and choppiness,and horrible IDE compared to a world class one.
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While I really like Visual Studio.NET (Currently using 2012 for most of the applications I develop). Eclipse is not a horrible IDE compared to VS. Both of them have features I like/dislike.

For the record here, these problems are only my opinion. Info stealing applications is easy to put on any platform (I'm a dev, so I do happen to know what is possible). The HTC one doesn't seem to lag at all (And, yes I'm used to the 920).

Also, when I first got the 920, it had tons of issues that needed fixing. My first one wouldn't hang up calls due to a faulty proximity detector. So, the work-around was to wait for the other person to hang up. This happened on multiple devices around the company. It did lock up also. One time I was stuck in an airport and had to figure out how to soft reset it. Not really that straight forward as I didn't know the volume button combination at first. One of my friends turned into a great hand warmer and never turned on again.

I had a total of 3 of them. One from BUILD dev, a red one that shattered on a small fall from my pocket, and another red one. So, I did try to love it.

The Camera is very nice and fast. I will miss that part.

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You don't have to use Eclipse.

IntelliJ works fine for Android development.

On top of that, Android Studio is under development.

[url="http://developer.android.com/sdk/installing/studio.html"]http://developer.and...ing/studio.html[/url]

Heck, use Visual Studio with Xamarin, if you prefer.

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[quote name='Liana' timestamp='1369078582' post='595700624']
OP is just sharing their experiences and frustrations with their WP. You act like they personally insulted you; why the hate? Most people won't fully understand the limitations of a device without using it for a while first. I'm glad that WP works well for you, but I don't think it's right to call the OP a whiner.
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Exactly. It's always interesting to hear from people who have used flagship handsets for both platforms and used them on a daily basis, as it's hard to tell from just a glance.
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[quote name='warwagon' timestamp='1369065697' post='595700132']
The one thing that REALLY annoys me about Android is that for what ever reason they decided to combine the Notification with the Ringtone volume and made it one. I HATE THAT. When I sleep at night I like to have my notifications get muted but I still want to get phone phonecalls. I've gone in and unselected the "link notifications and rintones" under sounds but that didn't separated them.
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Try an app called "Lightflow"

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[quote name='ThreadAbort' timestamp='1369086951' post='595700882']
While I really like Visual Studio.NET (Currently using 2012 for most of the applications I develop). Eclipse is not a horrible IDE compared to VS. Both of them have features I like/dislike.


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you cant possibly say that with a straight face. there is no comparison.

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Have the allowed you to change the system font size? This was a big problem for my mum when she purchased a Nokia WP, the text in the SMS messaging app was too small for her to see and I saw no way of increasing the font size.

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[quote name='AbandonedTrolley' timestamp='1369737759' post='595718588']
Have the allowed you to change the system font size? This was a big problem for my mum when she purchased a Nokia WP, the text in the SMS messaging app was too small for her to see and I saw no way of increasing the font size.
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yes. wp8 lets you change the text size in the settings.

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My Mom who happens to be a bigger gadget freak than me has tried em all, she currently has a 910, a 920, and an iPhone 4S, she's used Android and got me to switch from BB back in the Cupcake days. She told me the other day that she's switching back to Android soon, she likes her WP device but it's lacking in features she needs for work, iOS doesn't seem to cooperate too well with it, so Android is her only choice for the flexibility and choices, and she REALLY gave iOS and WP a shot, she's been dealing with both for over a year now and has given up.

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[quote name='Hitman2000' timestamp='1369014119' post='595699236']
Yeh windows 8 phone is fine for the average consumer who just wants to make calls/text, browse facebook and play angry birds
much like iphone

once you get used to custom roms and the cutomisability of android its very hard to go back

for example i tried a lumia 800 for a few months

I had to always use skydrive to upload my documents to the phone, why the hell couldnt i just do drag and drop from WINDOWS DESKTOP, i can do it on my android phone... same with music and video files, why do i have to sync with zune all the time /itunes with iphone.
I couldnt have individual volumes as you point out
i couldnt figure out how to have custom ringtone or text tone
i coulnt change the vibration styles for calls and messages ( a nokia from 2002 can do this...)
there was no way to set do not disturb times
there was no easy way to access airplane mode,and other settings (compared to the pull down notification bar in android)
there was no light notification for missed calls/texts, you have to turn on the screen to check
there was no easy file browser/explorer
lack of apps

these are just the thing i can think of right now

i felt very limited on the lumia,
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Speak for yourself.

HTC Magic
HTC Legend
Sony Ericsson X10
iPhone 4
Galaxy S2
Galaxy Tab
Motorola Xoom
Galaxy Nexus
Galaxy S3
Lumia 920

I love the 920 apart from a few issues which will be sorted once Nokia send my replacement out.

There are features missing, and it's a pain, because I think MS should be pumping the updates out. But It is a brilliant OS. I'm no regular consumer, apart from the X10, which didn't have an unlocked bootloader while I used it, is the only one I didn't constantly trial different custom ROMs. I also jailbroke and downloaded the crap out of Cydia hacks.

I honestly would struggle to use Android again. That's not to say Android isn't friggin awesome, as is iOS.

Drag and drop is supported on my phone
Individual volume really needs to be in the first major update due next month. It's painful, really painful.
You didn't look hard enough
Not that I use this feature, but I can see how that would be annoying.
A feature that will hopefully be added
A few apps add this functionality. I'm interested to see how MS will address this, because they need to do something for notifications. Toasts don't cut it. I think they ran out of time according to an article I read. I think.
Many phones don't have lights.
What do you need a file browser for?
It's growing day by day.
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[quote name='z0phi3l' timestamp='1369745565' post='595718758']
she likes her WP device but it's lacking in features she needs for work, has given up.
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What features? And yet they let Androids have access? Color me skeptical.

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[quote name='vcfan' timestamp='1369095949' post='595701166']
you cant possibly say that with a straight face. there is no comparison.
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well, he can and then start laughing hysterically.

[quote name='z0phi3l' timestamp='1369745565' post='595718758']
My Mom who happens to be a bigger gadget freak than me has tried em all, she currently has a 910, a 920, and an iPhone 4S, she's used Android and got me to switch from BB back in the Cupcake days. She told me the other day that she's switching back to Android soon, she likes her WP device but it's lacking in features she needs for work, iOS doesn't seem to cooperate too well with it, so Android is her only choice for the flexibility and choices, and she REALLY gave iOS and WP a shot, she's been dealing with both for over a year now and has given up.
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I bet your mom's problem with Lumia 910 is that it doesn't exist.

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