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#31 HawkMan

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 11:06

If that is the case what is your point? That select audience wouldn't replace on the 360 either. If someone doesn't need to update then they don't do it. Being able to user replace the drive is pro-consumer, easy for those that find out how, and in absolutely no way an unachievable task.

How a drive can be replaced is only ever going to be appliable to a consumer that needs to do it. If your mother doesn't need to/care for/or can't replace a 360 hard drive she wasn't replacing a PS3 one no matter how the process is carried out.

My point in regards to Sony not selling official hard drives is that those people that need to or want more space have clearly not had a "99.9%" percentile issue with the PS3 as it's now sold what, nearly 80 million units and Sony have not needed to release any official hard drive addons. That speaks volumes.


Your original point was that a built in non replaceable HDD was a terrible sin to humanity, but now it was suddenly something else.

If HDD crash, people turn it in for service inside or outside warranty, and hardly anyone, at leas with a 500GB drive won't replace the drive. So this affects less than a fraction of a percentile of the users. Ad due to the external HDD support, they're not effected either.

Or they just unscrew the one screw holding the HDD tray in instead of spending silly money getting it "repaired".

They said in the presentation you could use USB3 HDDs but not what size. Current Xbox is limited to 32GB for NO reason whatsoever.


Really, you know so much about the internal workings of the 360 you can flat out state it is for no reason...


#32 margrave

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 11:07

This just feels like an apple move to me . . .

#33 Audioboxer

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 11:08

Your original point was that a built in non replaceable HDD was a terrible sin to humanity, but now it was suddenly something else.

If HDD crash, people turn it in for service inside or outside warranty, and hardly anyone, at leas with a 500GB drive won't replace the drive. So this affects less than a fraction of a percentile of the users. Ad due to the external HDD support, they're not effected either.


Considering I'm an athiest and think the word "sin" is stupid, certainly not :p

It's an annoying anti-consumer decision most of us thought MS would learn from after Sony allowed it on the PS3, that is all. There is a slight concern about what happens if your internal drive kicks the bucket (replacing a PS3 hard drive is "hard"? Try opening and dismantling a console...), and the even smaller annoyance of yeah you can plug an external drive in, but that's yet ANOTHER piece of hardware along with the kinect that needs hang around your TV. With an internal upgrade you bump up from 500GB to 1TB and the box/your TV setup doesn't change or have anything else cluttering it up. Simple.

#34 spenser.d

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 11:27

Well you're seriously out of touch with this generation considering Sony have sold absolutely no official hard drive addons and have had absolutely no issues at all. When people run out or low on space they'll consult friends or family or Sony or the staff at Best Buy/Game/Gamestop/Walmart etc.

Playing the "society are all helpless dumb people who cannot use the internet or phone the manufacturer or ask in retail" card in a world of smart phones and tablets and interactive TVs gets seriously flawed.


Dude you posted the same sort of fud during the 360's lifecycle and yet it was extremely successful. I think you're the one out of touch and yet again blowing things out of proportion.

#35 George P

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 11:36

The fact they have a specific USB3 port on the side so you can easily connect a external drive and also the internal is not swappable says to me that they're not going to have any size limits on externals. They're not going to be selling their own drives for this like they did on the 360, thus they have no need to limit what you can do through USB.

Regardless, a year after when prices come down I bet you'll see a newer model with a 1TB internal but for now if 500GB isn't doing it for you then any USB3 external hdd you can buy will help.

#36 TheLegendOfMart

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 11:41

Really, you know so much about the internal workings of the 360 you can flat out state it is for no reason...

As Audioboxer said, purely monetary reasons. You can pick up USB flash drive or USB HDD for so cheap and no one would buy the overpriced HDD only Microsoft makes.

Flash drives use FATX filesystem just like HDDs and you can get a branded Microsoft 320GB HDD, why can't you use a 64, 128 or 256 GB flash drive or external HDD?

#37 ctrl_alt_delete

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 12:07

Legendofmart and audioboxer keeps flooding the Xbox threads and those guys are serious die hard playstation fans.
First they started with how "ugly" the box look, then they down played the cloud computing (completely sidestepping no other console has incorporated this before, not even PCs) then now they're going on about the hard drive completely ignoring that you can just install games movies audios and the like on an external hard drive which virtually means endless hdd space all without having to switch hdd. Man I'm sure you can even plug it in ur NAS.



#38 TheLegendOfMart

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 12:11

I'm a die hard Playstation fan because I don't like the Xbox One?

Nice logic. I had an Xbox from launch until 2011, if that's a die hard Playstation fan then I'd hate to hear how you describe someone who buys and uses nothing but Sony/Playstation.

I just enjoy discussing topics of things I am interested in, I was fully prepared to get an Xbox One until the reveal.

#39 Audioboxer

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 12:13

Legendofmart and audioboxer keeps flooding the Xbox threads and those guys are serious die hard playstation fans.
First they started with how "ugly" the box look, then they down played the cloud computing (completely sidestepping no other console has incorporated this before, not even PCs) then now they're going on about the hard drive completely ignoring that you can just install games movies audios and the like on an external hard drive which virtually means endless hdd space all without having to switch hdd. Man I'm sure you can even plug it in ur NAS.


I think you'll find PCs have lead cloud computing (Steam/Gaikai/Onlive), PS3/360 came next (save game files) and then Sony mentioned it prior to MS for the PS4 at the February event. Just saying.

#40 Jason Stillion

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 12:15

Mixed, w/ external drive options, hitting space limit.

But.... will the Xbox One continue to operate after HD failure?
The OS could be stored on separate (smaller) memory chips.

Example - Early PS3 has enough storage space for the OS indepedent of the Hard drive. However Latter model's has to save part of it to the hard drive.

On the flip side, I've just installed a 1TB HD into my PS3.

#41 ctrl_alt_delete

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 12:20

I think it's serious time we start ignoring these guys. I don't see why we should be defensive about their insecurities. They'll always be ps fans and will always try to down play the Xbox.

It doesn't matter if the ps4's GPU is 50% faster. The ps3 had way more processing power than the 360 but look how that turned out.
I've watched both the Sony and Xbox reveal and yeah my house is going Xbox.

#42 TheLegendOfMart

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 12:24

I'm not a freaking fanboy, I owned 360 since launch till 2011, I've owned more Xboxes (thanks RROD) and played on them longer than I have PS3.

It does matter that the PS4 GPU is 50% faster, like this generation the PS3 dragged down the graphical quality for the sake of parity between platforms, next generation is going to be held back by the weak GPU in the Xbox One for multiplat games.

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 12:29

I think it's serious time we start ignoring these guys. I don't see why we should be defensive about their insecurities. They'll always be ps fans and will always try to down play the Xbox.

It doesn't matter if the ps4's GPU is 50% faster. The ps3 had way more processing power than the 360 but look how that turned out.
I've watched both the Sony and Xbox reveal and yeah my house is going Xbox.

Funny, you claim they have insecurities, yet you make comments like the one I bolded above. How exactly did it turn out? With great games on both systems? And almost identical numbers of units sold worldwide even with a year head start? Oh yeah, that turned out so awful. :rolleyes:

Do not blame these two guys for being the only ones to defend their brands. The SAME exact sort of things are said from the other side from those who prefer MS.

#44 OP compl3x

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 12:31

I think it's serious time we start ignoring these guys. I don't see why we should be defensive about their insecurities. They'll always be ps fans and will always try to down play the Xbox.



Just FYI I didn't post this topic to start a fanboy war.

#45 ctrl_alt_delete

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Posted 22 May 2013 - 12:40

One thing my girl and I hated was having to find the other remote to switch input to the tv. So it's welcomed that this was addressed in the new Xbox, I'm hoping it has DVR functionality too. 500gb is a decent amount of space. I have a 3tb drive here...think I'll get another one daisy chain them in the new Xbox. So in Essence I'll have a 6.5TB Xbox One, just because I can.



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