Jump to content



Photo

Kinect 2 DRM limits viewing to set amount of people in room


  • Please log in to reply
51 replies to this topic

#1 +FiB3R

FiB3R

    aka DARKFiB3R

  • Tech Issues Solved: 4
  • Joined: 06-November 02
  • Location: SE London
  • OS: Windows 8.1 Enterprise
  • Phone: Lumia 930

Posted 25 May 2013 - 18:57

Are these ***** taking the ****ing ****?

Xbox One will monitor users' content viewing in a number of ways.

Microsoft's next-generation console has applied for a patent offering users Xbox 360-like achievements for watching specific content and adverts, reports Gamesindustry International.

The console's Kinect 2 will also employ DRM measures to prevent more people than the license allows viewing the content at one go, as per another patent filed last year.

If Kinect senses too many people in the room, it will prompt the users to upgrade the license.

"Television viewing tends to be a passive experience for a viewer, without many opportunities for the viewer to engage or have interactive experiences with the presented content," the application for the achievements reads.

"To increase interactive viewing and encourage a user to watch one or more particular items of video content, awards and achievements may be tied to those items of video content."

The company has said that not all the patents they apply for will necessarily be incorporated into Xbox One.

First image of the Xbox One

"Microsoft regularly applies for and receives patents as part of its business practice; not all patents applied for or received will be incorporated into a Microsoft product," it told MCV.

However, the trade said that its UK industry sources have confirmed that the DRM system will be implemented on Xbox One.


The company claimed earlier in the week that its policies for the next-generation console were still subject to change before its launch.



http://www.digitalsp...of-viewers.html

Maybe my first reaction was a little... misguided. The max number of viewers better be something like 50 though, otherwise they can go **** themselves.


#2 Anthony Tosie

Anthony Tosie

    Neowinian

  • Joined: 21-April 12
  • Location: United States

Posted 25 May 2013 - 19:04

Are these ***** taking the ****ing ****?

http://www.digitalsp...of-viewers.html

"Microsoft regularly applies for and receives patents as part of its business practice; not all patents applied for or received will be incorporated into a Microsoft product," it told MCV.

What is with everyone posting misleading titles lately?

#3 OP +FiB3R

FiB3R

    aka DARKFiB3R

  • Tech Issues Solved: 4
  • Joined: 06-November 02
  • Location: SE London
  • OS: Windows 8.1 Enterprise
  • Phone: Lumia 930

Posted 25 May 2013 - 19:11

Did you all miss this bit?...

However, the trade said that its UK industry sources have confirmed that the DRM system will be implemented on Xbox One.



#4 logicwin

logicwin

    Neowinian

  • Joined: 06-May 09
  • Location: canada

Posted 25 May 2013 - 19:13

so they have a patent and may or may not implement it? Theres no info on the amount of people it restricts, for all we know its to prevent someone making a movie theatre in their basement that fits 50 people and profiting from that.

edit: "UK based sources" is not Microsoft, that is heresay

#5 TheLegendOfMart

TheLegendOfMart

    Neowinian Senior

  • Joined: 01-October 01
  • Location: England

Posted 25 May 2013 - 19:14

Any recording devices/viewing devices (e.g webcams) have to have the option of being turned off in the EU, otherwise it violates the law, Microsoft are going to have a shock if they implement that kind of DRM.

#6 Anthony Tosie

Anthony Tosie

    Neowinian

  • Joined: 21-April 12
  • Location: United States

Posted 25 May 2013 - 19:22

Did you all miss this bit?...



So yeah, back the **** up.

That goes against everything Neowin has heard from Microsoft about DRM with the console.

#7 Shaun N.

Shaun N.

    Perfidious

  • Tech Issues Solved: 1
  • Joined: 09-November 04
  • Location: Northants, England
  • OS: Work: Windows 8/Ubuntu Home: Ubuntu

Posted 25 May 2013 - 19:24

Don't like it? Don't buy it

#8 OP +FiB3R

FiB3R

    aka DARKFiB3R

  • Tech Issues Solved: 4
  • Joined: 06-November 02
  • Location: SE London
  • OS: Windows 8.1 Enterprise
  • Phone: Lumia 930

Posted 25 May 2013 - 19:26

That goes against everything Neowin has heard from Microsoft about DRM with the console.


I hope so. I would hold MVC in relatively high regard as a source.

#9 Torolol

Torolol

  • Joined: 24-November 12

Posted 25 May 2013 - 19:28

MS could, in theory to incorporates the 'patent' via xbox-1 updates.

Order the Schrodinger kinnect, nao!

#10 Anthony Tosie

Anthony Tosie

    Neowinian

  • Joined: 21-April 12
  • Location: United States

Posted 25 May 2013 - 19:29

I hope so. I would hold MVC in relatively high regard as a source.

What we know about DRM:
  • Xbox Live subscriptions will work for both Xbox 360 and Xbox One.
  • Xbox entertainment services (video and music) are pretty much unchanged.
  • Games are tied to user profiles, but anyone on the console a game was installed on can play it.
  • We haven't heard clarification on persistent Internet requirements or used games.
Other than that, I'd take pretty much anything else you hear as rumor and speculation until then. I'd be amazed if this outlet's sources were correct, because we haven't heard anything remotely like that. What would it even apply to? It's not applying to TV integration, not to Xbox Video, not to Blu-ray and not to apps we know of (such as Netflix). I don't know what else that leaves.

#11 Brian M.

Brian M.

    Neowinian Senior

  • Tech Issues Solved: 10
  • Joined: 07-January 05
  • Location: London, UK

Posted 25 May 2013 - 19:32

Thread cleaned.

Please keep it civil guys.

#12 Torolol

Torolol

  • Joined: 24-November 12

Posted 25 May 2013 - 19:33

Don't like it? Don't buy it

Agreed, I always encourages everyones to vote with their wallet.

#13 shakey

shakey

    It's soooooo Educational

  • Joined: 31-March 04
  • Location: Austin, Tx

Posted 25 May 2013 - 19:36

That goes against everything Neowin has heard from Microsoft about DRM with the console.


Do you have more information that we are missing? I'd like to read it. Really interested in getting all the FUD out and hear the truth. Would help if it was shared.....

#14 OP +FiB3R

FiB3R

    aka DARKFiB3R

  • Tech Issues Solved: 4
  • Joined: 06-November 02
  • Location: SE London
  • OS: Windows 8.1 Enterprise
  • Phone: Lumia 930

Posted 25 May 2013 - 19:38

What we know about DRM:

  • Xbox Live subscriptions will work for both Xbox 360 and Xbox One.
  • Xbox entertainment services (video and music) are pretty much unchanged.
  • Games are tied to user profiles, but anyone on the console a game was installed on can play it.
  • We haven't heard clarification on persistent Internet requirements or used games.
Other than that, I'd take pretty much anything else you hear as rumor and speculation until then. I'd be amazed if this outlet's sources were correct, because we haven't heard anything remotely like that. What would it even apply to? It's not applying to TV integration, not to Xbox Video, not to Blu-ray and not to apps we know of (such as Netflix). I don't know what else that leaves.


I agree that it should be treated with suspicion, but just because we currently know X, does not mean that new information Y is automatically incorrect. What kind of logic is that?

And why wouldn't it apply to all those services? Pretty sure that is exactly what it would be used for. (if used at all)

#15 TheExperiment

TheExperiment

    Reality Bomb

  • Tech Issues Solved: 1
  • Joined: 11-October 03
  • Location: Everywhere
  • OS: 8.1 x64

Posted 25 May 2013 - 19:39

As an aside, they had this patent on the first Kinect also IIRC. People took that to mean it was going to be used then too.

It wasn't.



Click here to login or here to register to remove this ad, it's free!