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#16 George P

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 05:36

The problem was never that they would BLOCK used games, rather that they would charge people money for used games. Meaning that if you borrowed a game from your friend, you would have to pay Microsoft money in order to play the game that your friend had bought.


There has been newer info out that says that's not the case, you can lend your games out and in doing so you can't play it while that same copy is authenticated on your friends system. Once you get the disc back and authenticate your copy again then you're good to go. It sounds exactly the same as it's always been, no disc/cart, no play. The fact of the matter is that as time passes and we get closer to E3 these doom and gloom rumors are looking more and more like minor tweaks to the same system we've had since the start.


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Posted 28 May 2013 - 07:07

Ahh good to know a random Xbox support account knows more than major nelson and Phil Harrison who both confirmed the fee. Consider us told.

Seriously though did you even look at the date? This was released just after the conference and just added to the confusion of Microsofts dreadful PR. The fee for lending to a friend was confirmed after this tweet. Funny that people think this dismisses the 'Fud' though.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 07:20

Major Nelson confirmed there's a fee for lending games? Where exactly? Last thing he said was that all these rumors flying around are inaccurate and incomplete. As for the "fee" Harrison talked about, that sounded to me more like a case of where you get your game back and your friend still wants to play the game that's still installed on their system. The game isn't "lent" anymore since you took the disc back home and probably re authorized it on your own system. So if they want to play it again then the "fee" would be them actually buying it for themselves now. That'd turn it into a digital GoD purchase.

The only fee that has any semi-fact to it is that retailers will get charged something for used games.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 08:28

Ahh good to know a random Xbox support account knows more than major nelson and Phil Harrison who both confirmed the fee. Consider us told.

Seriously though did you even look at the date? This was released just after the conference and just added to the confusion of Microsofts dreadful PR. The fee for lending to a friend was confirmed after this tweet. Funny that people think this dismisses the 'Fud' though.


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Posted 28 May 2013 - 08:38

[citation needed]


There isn't any. No one has confirmed anything, it's just rumors being thrown around.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 08:58

There isn't any. No one has confirmed anything, it's just rumors being thrown around.

They aren't rumours. It is what Microsoft themselves told the press :rolleyes: .

Phil Harrison stated: You'll have to pay a fee—and not just some sort of activation fee, but the actual price of that game.
Major Nelson clarified: Should you choose to play your game at your friend’s house, there is no fee to play that game while you are signed in to your profile.

I think its pretty clear that you cant lend a game to a friend as they are linked to your profile, they would have to pay to buy the game as Phil stated.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 12:28

They aren't rumours. It is what Microsoft themselves told the press :rolleyes: .

Phil Harrison stated: You'll have to pay a fee—and not just some sort of activation fee, but the actual price of that game.
Major Nelson clarified: Should you choose to play your game at your friend’s house, there is no fee to play that game while you are signed in to your profile.

I think its pretty clear that you cant lend a game to a friend as they are linked to your profile, they would have to pay to buy the game as Phil stated.


You do realise that the fee is if you want to install the game and play it without the game disc right? So essentially owning the game on 2 machines.

People are so ****ing stupid. This has been blown so much out of hand, I really feel for MS.

Also, do people realise that when you've played a game on your account and play on someone elses xbox, you can install and download any game you've played and own.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 12:32

...they expect Microsoft to just say everything in One shot.


Well done.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 12:39

X1 games from what I understand will require to be installed.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 12:51

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 12:57

You do realise that the fee is if you want to install the game and play it without the game disc right? So essentially owning the game on 2 machines.

People are so ****ing stupid. This has been blown so much out of hand, I really feel for MS.

Also, do people realise that when you've played a game on your account and play on someone elses xbox, you can install and download any game you've played and own.

Ha Im sure Microsoft needs your sympathy.
And no we dont know it works anything like that. From what we know games must be installed so you cant give the disc to anyone you like to try out for a bit.
Want to lend a game to a friend without giving them access to your live account? Tough, Microsoft demands payment.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 13:43

Ha Im sure Microsoft needs your sympathy.
And no we dont know it works anything like that. From what we know games must be installed so you cant give the disc to anyone you like to try out for a bit.
Want to lend a game to a friend without giving them access to your live account? Tough, Microsoft demands payment.


We don't know it works anything like how you think either. Since you want to believe in rumors so much, the newest ones say you CAN lend a game to a friend and that until you get your disc back to authenticate your install over with it you can't play your install.

http://www.polygon.c...ecks-used-games

If you want to selectively believe in one rumor and not the other then fine but don't state the one you believe in is fact because they aren't.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 13:48

Consider how long it took for MS to clarify, and they didn't do it with the reveal, I won't put it past them they were testing the waters to do this and the backlash proved too much.
There's rumor to generate buzz, then there this rumor which was hurting them for a while.

They still won't come out and say used games are treated the same as they are on the 360.

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 13:52

We don't know it works anything like how you think either. Since you want to believe in rumors so much, the newest ones say you CAN lend a game to a friend and that until you get your disc back to authenticate your install over with it you can't play your install.

http://www.polygon.c...ecks-used-games

If you want to selectively believe in one rumor and not the other then fine but don't state the one you believe in is fact because they aren't.

Nice try but actually I'd rather not believe in rumours hence me believing what a corporate vice president of Microsoft had to say to the press when they revealed the console.
Nothing they have said after the fact has said he was wrong. Merely that they are still "ironing out the details" or rather "we are trying to weather the ****storm of bad press after we announced this thing."

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Posted 28 May 2013 - 13:56

Orite then jackass. Read this from Major Nelson himself:
http://majornelson.c...d-used-games-2/

Steam has been doing this since Half Life 2, why are people complaining when next-generation consoles are doing the same 9 years later?

Nice try but actually I'd rather not believe in rumours hence me believing what a corporate vice president of Microsoft had to say to the press when they revealed the console.
Nothing they have said after the fact has said he was wrong. Merely that they are still "ironing out the details" or rather "we are trying to weather the ****storm of bad press after we announced this thing."


Do you honestly think the Xbox One has finished development? Do you even know how much work it takes for something like this to go from concept to reality? They'll actively still be working on it. Or even changing the whole process based on reactions.