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#46 OP +warwagon

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 16:38

Even if I remove the power cord and battery is not in?

 

Correct hibernation at least in windows 7, dumps the contents of ram to a hibernation file on the hard drive and then turns the computer completely off. Then when you turn the computer back on it puts the contents of that file back into memory.




#47 Max Norris

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 16:39

Except the average user for some reason has been programmed for the last 20 years if something doesn't work right, turn it off and turn it back on. Which would actually work in previous versions because in doing that they would be restarting windows.

Ok so get with the program and tell them to restart instead of going thru the extra hassle of a complete shutdown and power-on cycle?  Faster and less steps for everybody involved.  Only inconvenience seems to be to tech support who refuses to learn the new stuff, if anything it's a gain for the actual users as it speeds up startup time quite a bit.



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Posted 25 June 2014 - 16:39

Cars used to be started with cranks. Now they have ignition keys. It seems that everyone was able to make the transition.

 

(Windows 95-era computers didn't even shut off automatically. Windows told you it was safe turn off the power.)


 

It's still suspended to disk. The hibernation file is basically a page file for everything currently in memory.

 

Turn off in the sense that when you turn it back on you would be cold booting



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Posted 25 June 2014 - 16:43

Cars used to be started with cranks. Now they have ignition keys. It seems that everyone was able to make the transition.

 

(Windows 95-era computers didn't even shut off automatically. Windows told you it was safe turn off the power.)

 

Were you to be advocating for an official changelog for Windows I would totally support that. It's long overdue and there should be a "What's new" app that appears after any non-trivial update.


 

It's still suspended to disk. The hibernation file is basically a page file for everything currently in memory.

Hmmm interesting

 

Correct hibernation at least in windows 7, dumps the contents of ram to a hibernation file on the hard drive and then turns the computer completely off. Then when you turn the computer back on it puts the contents of that file back into memory.

Now I want to try completely shutting down!



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Posted 25 June 2014 - 17:24

It's easy to disable hibernation, elevated cmd prompt: powercfg -h off

That makes shut down a real shut down.

http://www.sevenforu...le-disable.html



#51 Dot Matrix

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 17:33

I really think they need to back pedal on this. Make it the way it use to be. Or somehow let the user know that this is not "a replacement for a restart" like EVERYONE thinks it is!

Yes, how dare Microsoft transition into new ways of doing things!



#52 eddman

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 17:43

Except the average user for some reason has been programmed for the last 20 years if something doesn't work right, turn it off and turn it back on. Which would actually work in previous versions because in doing that they would be restarting windows.

Then that's not an average user. Windows always asks to "RESTART your computer", MS online documents also use the term "Restart". Never they state "Shutdown your computer and then turn it back on".

 

If someone cannot even see that there are two separate options in the menu, restart and shutdown, then perhaps they shouldn't even touch a PC.



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Posted 25 June 2014 - 17:48

Anyone who clicks "shutdown" instead of "restart" when they want to restart deserves whatever happens to them.

 

Next you'll be ranting about why Internet Explorer's back button should go forward and that clicking Notepad should open Paint.

 

No, I'd rather live in a world where the default behavior is the fastest and most appropriate 99% of the time.