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#16 Som

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 10:45

Here's my Spec:

General
Operating System Microsoft Windows 8 Pro with Media Center
Central Processor Intel® Core™ i3 CPU 550 @ 3.20GHz
Graphics
Video Adapter Intel® HD Graphics
Video Memory 0 Byte
Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080
Storage
Total Memory 6.93 GB
Free Memory 5.54 GB
Total Hard disk 448.66 GB
Free Hard disk 257.69 GB


Processor MainBoard
Central Processor
CPU Name Intel® Core™ i3 CPU 550 @ 3.20GHz
Code Name N/A
Manufacturer GenuineIntel
Current Clock Speed 3200 Mhz
Max Clock Speed 3200 Mhz
Voltage 1.1V
External Clock 133 Mhz
CPU ID Intel64 Family 6 Model 37 Stepping 5
Socket Designation CPU 1
L1-Cache 128 KB
L2-Cache 512 KB
L3-Cache 4096 KB
Motherboard
Model imedia S3810
Manufacturer Packard Bell
BIOS Name Default System BIOS
BIOS Vendor American Megatrends Inc.
SMBIOS Version P01-A4
BIOS Date 19/08/2010

Video Adapter
Name Intel® HD Graphics
Video Processor Intel® HD Graphics (Core i3)
Manufacturer Intel Corporation
Video Architecture VGA
DAC Type Internal
Memory Size 0 Byte
Memory Type Unknown
Video Mode 1920 x 1080 x 4294967296 colors
Current Refresh Rate 59 Hz
Driver Version 8.15.10.2858
Driver Date 09/10/2012

Runs Adobe CS5 okay yet cant even play a game made in the 90's! Time to stick my boot through it!



Desktop or laptop? if it's a desktop buy a graphics card, you can get a cheapish one that'll make all the difference. Intel HD graphics is not for gaming...


#17 vetSpyder

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 17:59

^
Windows 7 drivers work just fine on Windows 8.

I have only one personal example but on a machine where i installed windows 7 intel drivers on windows 8, they installed fine but attempting to use a modern app would bluescreen the PC. Based on that alone, I would have to disagree with your statement, or at least modify it by saying "may not work in all cases on Windows 8"

#18 OP windowsh8

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 18:58

Thanks for the replies everyone, much appreciated. It looks like I'm going to have to go without games because I don't have the money to buy a 'discreet graphics card'.

@Ice_Blue - it says ' Intel ® HD Graphics (Windows says Driver is up to date)
@Dot Matrix - tried compatibility mode all the way back to Win95 no good
@redvamp128 - Got DirectX but tried those downloads anyway, no change

Weird how the games (Shogun, Warhammer:Dark Omen) are very old and work fine on an antique but NOT Windows8..and that's progress is it Microsoft?

#19 TheExperiment

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 19:01

Weird how the games (Shogun, Warhammer:Dark Omen) are very old and work fine on an antique but NOT Windows8..and that's progress is it Microsoft?

And they work fine in win8 if you've got working graphics drivers. Very rare that anything working in 7 doesn't work in 8.

#20 ZakO

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 19:08

Thanks for the replies everyone, much appreciated. It looks like I'm going to have to go without games because I don't have the money to buy a 'discreet graphics card'.

@Ice_Blue - it says ' Intel ® HD Graphics (Windows says Driver is up to date)
@Dot Matrix - tried compatibility mode all the way back to Win95 no good
@redvamp128 - Got DirectX but tried those downloads anyway, no change

Weird how the games (Shogun, Warhammer:Dark Omen) are very old and work fine on an antique but NOT Windows8..and that's progress is it Microsoft?


Intel haven't released a driver compatible with Windows 8 for the 1st generation Intel HD graphics, blame Intel, not Windows 8. The driver is "up to date" but it will be using a generic Microsoft one rather than a full-featured driver specifically for that GPU.

It's not just old games, I bought two games from 'Steam' - Post Apocolyptic Mayhem: graphics look terrible, Elder Scrolls v Skyrim: too juddery to be playable.

Even if you downgraded back to Windows 7 (which Intel has a driver for) games like Skyrim would still be juddery, you'd only get about 5-10fps on low settings in Skyrim with your current GPU.

#21 Aergan

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 19:09

Thanks for the replies everyone, much appreciated. It looks like I'm going to have to go without games because I don't have the money to buy a 'discreet graphics card'.

@Ice_Blue - it says ' Intel ® HD Graphics (Windows says Driver is up to date)
@Dot Matrix - tried compatibility mode all the way back to Win95 no good
@redvamp128 - Got DirectX but tried those downloads anyway, no change

Weird how the games (Shogun, Warhammer:Dark Omen) are very old and work fine on an antique but NOT Windows8..and that's progress is it Microsoft?


Shogun Total War works fine on Windows 8 and likely Dark Omen if you have driver support (Which is an Intel failing by the way).

#22 Dashel

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 20:22

Thanks for the replies everyone, much appreciated. It looks like I'm going to have to go without games because I don't have the money to buy a 'discreet graphics card'.

Weird how the games (Shogun, Warhammer:Dark Omen) are very old and work fine on an antique but NOT Windows8..and that's progress is it Microsoft?


A $30 card is sufficient for your need. Your definition of progress is, odd.

#23 Javik

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Posted 12 June 2013 - 20:25

Thanks, tried that but all I get from that site after running the Java thing is 'This device is unknown or unsupported.' for every item.


I wish. My wreck came with Win7 installed, no disc so no way back :(


If you have a key you can legally download untouched ISO's from digital river

http://forums.mydigi...-amp-X64/page60

#24 +_Alexander

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 00:39

I have only one personal example but on a machine where i installed windows 7 intel drivers on windows 8, they installed fine but attempting to use a modern app would bluescreen the PC. Based on that alone, I would have to disagree with your statement, or at least modify it by saying "may not work in all cases on Windows 8"


:(

#25 briangw

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 00:48

Speaking of Windows 8 and gaming....anyone know how to prevent the mouse from leaving the first monitor of a two monitor configuration, going to the second monitor in a game when you move the mouse to the edge of the screen? I don't recall that in Win 7 and so far noticed in on Fallen Enchantress: Legendary Heroes and Walking Dead on Steam.

#26 Dashel

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 15:51

The game is set for full screen and not windowed full screen?

#27 PGHammer

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 16:06

Shogun Total War runs fine on Windows 8 x64 - I would believe your issue is driver related and likely only resolved by adding a discrete card I'm afraid (as already stated).

Intel drivers are signed and definition file locked for specific versions of Windows these days so unfortunately it's very unlikely you'll get a proper solution now or in the future for your on-chip GFX solution. Windows 7 x86 32bit based Intel HD GFX drivers might install for you on Windows 8 x86 but it might not fix your issue (and may introduce further issues).


The "graphics gotcha" almost always hits the portable (laptop and notebook) crowd the hardest whenever a new OS comes out - it's far from unique to Windows, let alone Windows 8.
The big reason my (similar-age) desktop did NOT get bit by the gotcha (Intel G41 chipset, which is far older) is because I added a discrete (though old) GPU - AMD's HD5450.
It's old itself - in fact, it dates back to the tailchase of Vista - however, it's still supported, including by Windows 8.

#28 PGHammer

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 16:13

A $30 card is sufficient for your need. Your definition of progress is, odd.


For desktop owners in this sort of pickle, I have (since the days of Windows 7) recommended AMD's HD54xx/6xx/77xx GPU families. Except for the HD7790 (which launched less than two months ago) none are abovce $120USD, even retail - in fact, most are less than $100USD, with the oldest (HD5450) even sub-$50USD. Most are PCIe x16; however, some are even PCI-bus - all are supported by Windows 7, 8, most Linux distributions, and even work in "Hacint0shes". Mine (the aforementioned HD5450) has been going strong for two years.

#29 PsYcHoKiLLa

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 16:17

Why the hell are you trying to play games with an i3's graphics chip? Even if it did work it will be horrendous, in fact why fork out for 7GB of memory and not get at least an i5?

#30 Denis W.

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Posted 13 June 2013 - 16:19

Regarding the Intel drivers, you can install the latest Windows 7 first-gen Core drivers on Windows 8. I wrote up a quick how-to guide here: http://www.neowin.ne...rs-on-windows-8