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#1 Tk1917

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 18:56

This past week private search engine DuckDuckGo recorded their best week ever for traffic. The website, which does not record user’s clicks, provides a service for those who wish to browse the Internet away from the prying eyes of the government or Google...



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#2 Sandor

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 19:09

Good for them

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 19:32

People switching need to watch / listen to the latest episode of Security Now. (http://twit.tv/show/security-now/408)

The data collection isn't being made at Google's facilities. Using another search engine is pointless.

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 19:47

DuckDuckGo is a good search engine actually

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 19:50

People switching need to watch / listen to the latest episode of Security Now. (http://twit.tv/show/security-now/408)

The data collection isn't being made at Google's facilities. Using another search engine is pointless.


But google is directly involved as a 'supporting PRISM' along with Microsoft, where duckduckgo isn't. don't mean that what you are searching won't be logged, but its less likely and showing that people won't stand for such direct secret involvement.

This guy in the video is a quack too.. he's rambling about things he barely grasps. Near the end when he says hes' 'uncomfortable' with 128bit encryption I nearly lost it. Check out around 1h31 to contradict yourself. Its definitely being made at googles facilities, however its not being made 'in' google itself and they aren't affiliated and they can't talk about it either.

#6 Torolol

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 01:38

it was US govt that initialy try to restrict the export & usages of > 56-bits encryption.

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 13:28

This guy in the video is a quack too.. he's rambling about things he barely grasps.

You don't know much about Steve Gibson, do you?

I thought too years ago he was a quack...until I started listening to him on a regular basis. You don't need to listen to all 400+ podcasts to realize he knows his stuff.

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 14:03

DuckDuckGo is a good search engine actually

 

It is but I just don't seem to have good luck finding what I want on there. 



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 15:06

But google is directly involved as a 'supporting PRISM' along with Microsoft, where duckduckgo isn't. don't mean that what you are searching won't be logged, but its less likely and showing that people won't stand for such direct secret involvement.
 

Google and MS are not involved with PRISM.  They have issued statements to that effect as well as many other companies.  They do have to respond to legal requests tho...as would any company.



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 15:15

Near the end when he says hes' 'uncomfortable' with 128bit encryption I nearly lost it.


Why? 128-bit encryption isn't what it used to be. MS themselves has stopped issuing certificates with less than 1024 bits almost a year ago. How strong encryption is doesn't remain fixed across time.

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 20:15

Google and MS are not involved with PRISM.  They have issued statements to that effect as well as many other companies.  They do have to respond to legal requests tho...as would any company.

They have 'fell victim to' I guess is a better way to word it, with digital taps on their upload servers. 


Why? 128-bit encryption isn't what it used to be. MS themselves has stopped issuing certificates with less than 1024 bits almost a year ago. How strong encryption is doesn't remain fixed across time.

Its blown open publicly last I knew. I'd be more than uncomfortable with it.. I'm referring to SSL/RC4 encryption, not AES or DES or any other non-common web security layer. Hell I read a few articles on how 256-bit can be severely weakened by predicting possible outcomes and prioritizing the method in brute-forcing it, example would be reducing 2356 years computer processing to around 25 on the same hardware. Theres NO encryption that is secure and there never will be. Its only a time-thing, you hope what you encrypted stays that way until its no longer relevant.



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 20:31

They have 'fell victim to' I guess is a better way to word it, with digital taps on their upload servers.

 

They have no direct access to their servers.  Whatever data is requested, they legally have to give.  But they provide the data.



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 20:34

I changed and am really enjoyed it. The !bangs feature they have is fantastically quick.



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Posted 17 June 2013 - 20:37

You don't know much about Steve Gibson, do you?

I thought too years ago he was a quack...until I started listening to him on a regular basis. You don't need to listen to all 400+ podcasts to realize he knows his stuff.

 

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#15 srbeen

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Posted 17 June 2013 - 22:54

They have no direct access to their servers.  Whatever data is requested, they legally have to give.  But they provide the data.

 

Theres taps on all the upstreams of the major US data centers. Thats their order, and Snowden made this very obvious with his leaks including their timeline of involvement. Other than those huge data centers of microsoft, google, yahoo, apple, etc, its Tier1 providers, so basically where all the ISPs in the USA get their internet to sell... From a standpoint in the USA you might as well shut off your internet if you are choosing which evil to make your request at, you aren't going to anonymously make it without going through something like TOR. From outside the USA where Tier1 providers are not tapped - duckduckgo may be a wiser choice depending on how you hit their servers. Huge however tho, .com and .net addresses are part of VeriSign which is a US company, and so, they are USA redirected, so your request traffic, IP, times etc bounces off the NSA somewhere when you visit one regardless of where in the world you are.