+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted June 17, 2013 Subscriber² Share Posted June 17, 2013 The console is much smaller than its direct competitor and 50 percent more powerful. The power brick is incorporated in the console despite the slim factor. After Sony announced the ram type there was discussion how and if they would be able to fit 16 4Gb GDDR5 chips in the console, the product would be rather colossal. The Xbox One is a huge console, and weeks prior to E3 everyone was certain the PS4 with its better specs would be of a similar size, if not even bigger. Even Yoshida was amazed by its smallness: "We were heavily involved in designing the DualShock 4 even at the time that no idea existed, because it?s the interface," Yoshida said. "We were there as a team. But the box, it?s just a box. When I finally saw it, it was near-final and I was amazed by the thinness and lightness of it. It looked already like the second generation of a console. I compared it to the second generation of the PS3. On PS4, first-gen is almost exactly the same dimensions. More than the aesthetics of it, the smallness of it. I am so psyched." This is not a size comparison thread but a question of ''how did they do it?!'' Why is the Xbox One bigger? This is how it looks inside: I'm really stoked to see the internals of the PS4 and how it compares to the Xbox because I believe Sony engineers used magic arranging the innards of the console. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=593806 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Majesticmerc MVC Posted June 17, 2013 MVC Share Posted June 17, 2013 Green motherboards are so 1998. SuperKid and Malisk 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunkyMike Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Is that a PSU with a HDD on top of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BajiRav Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 where is the inside photo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDboyz Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 The XboxOne still uses the external power supply I guess, since I don't see it shows with this picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BajiRav Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 <p> Is that a PSU with a HDD on top of it? As far as I know, that's internals of Xbox One not PS4 in OP.</p><p> </p> <p>Edit: yup, as covered by wired: <a href="http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2013/05/xbox-one-development-photos/#slideid-138497">http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2013/05/xbox-one-development-photos/#slideid-138497</a></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted June 17, 2013 Author Subscriber² Share Posted June 17, 2013 Yeah I made a mistake, that is the Xbox One. No idea how Sony managed an internal power supply in a device that thin with the picture in the OP being the Xbox One. Interested to see inside for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astra.Xtreme Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Yeah I made a mistake, that is the Xbox One. No idea how Sony managed an internal power supply in a device that thin with the picture in the OP being the Xbox One. Interested to see inside for sure. Do we know for sure that the PS4 will have an integrated PSU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfirth Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Everyone takes the first opportunity to bash the Xbox One without doing any independent research... Praise the picture of the internals of the PS4... now, who's going to start the bashing now that you realized it's an Xbox? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Wanderer Chicken Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 So the Xbox One is slighly slimmer than the PS3 Fat, but bigger than the PS3 slim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted June 17, 2013 Author Subscriber² Share Posted June 17, 2013 Do we know for sure that the PS4 will have an integrated PSU? Yeah it's confirmed @yosp Does the PS4 have a PowerBrick or has it a internal transformator o_? just curious, since there is no on/off flip-switch on the back.Shuhei Yoshida Shuhei Yoshida @yosp 3h @ibun internal, no brick @yosp is Sony. Also shown here as the power connector is the standard two prong cable connector (like PS3) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Wanderer Chicken Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 The PS4 is smaller than the Xbox One. From looking at amazon, the Xbox One is in fact around the same size of a VCR but slightly smaller. The PS4 did get slimmer and the Xbox gained some weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BajiRav Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Everyone takes the first opportunity to bash the Xbox One without doing any independent research... Praise the picture of the internals of the PS4... now, who's going to start the bashing now that you realized it's an Xbox? I had seen that gaf thread earlier, it's kinda entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astra.Xtreme Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Yeah it's confirmed @yosp is Sony. Also shown here as the power connector is the standard two prong cable connector (like PS3) Excellent. That's good news. Hopefully they will have well thought-out cooling routes. All that power in such a small area would be a pretty big concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorganX Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Yeah I made a mistake, that is the Xbox One. No idea how Sony managed an internal power supply in a device that thin with the picture in the OP being the Xbox One. Interested to see inside for sure. What are the specs on the PS4 PS? USFF PCs have managed it with silence up to 240W I think, maybe more. Custom Server PSUs up to 500, see Digital Storm Bolt (my personal desktop). The current PSUs in most Mini-ITX can power the current Intel Quad Cores plus any GPU not requiring external power, but most of them are not silent. The Dell OptiPlex are. Just a matter of how much profit they want to make off the hardware. I'll vote for internal any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted June 17, 2013 Author Subscriber² Share Posted June 17, 2013 What are the specs on the PS4 PS? USFF PCs have managed it with silence up to 240W I think, maybe more. Custom Server PSUs up to 500, see Digital Storm Bolt (my personal desktop). The current PSUs in most Mini-ITX can power the current Intel Quad Cores plus any GPU not requiring external power, but most of them are not silent. The Dell OptiPlex are. Just a matter of how much profit they want to make off the hardware. I'll vote for internal any day. They've said the PS+ sub for MP now is partly to help with the value in offering the PS4 at $399 so I'm guessing they're not netting not a lot. Potentially even a small loss with how bad the yen tracks the dollar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+E.Worm Jimmy Subscriber¹ Posted June 17, 2013 Subscriber¹ Share Posted June 17, 2013 Excellent. That's good news. Hopefully they will have well thought-out cooling routes. All that power in such a small area would be a pretty big concern. yeah, but if they have (and i am sure they did) - it is amazing how much they squeezed into ps4. not showing the console originally does not matter, now we know the box is much more attractive then xbox one. (yes, in this case, size is a huge factor) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted June 17, 2013 Author Subscriber² Share Posted June 17, 2013 yeah, but if they have (and i am sure they did) - it is amazing how much they squeezed into ps4. not showing the console originally does not matter, now we know the box is much more attractive then xbox one. (yes, in this case, size is a huge factor) Ohhh no, Neowin told us it was a disaster in February that they didn't :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkMan Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 yeah, but if they have (and i am sure they did) - it is amazing how much they squeezed into ps4. not showing the console originally does not matter, now we know the box is much more attractive then xbox one. (yes, in this case, size is a huge factor) opinions are now facts. they're both boxes, but I prefer the cleaner Xbox one design. still it should have been a standard stereo component width. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger H. Veteran Posted June 17, 2013 Veteran Share Posted June 17, 2013 Dunno how they did it but pretty sweet that it's that small. I was shocked by that alone when I saw the pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctrl_alt_delete Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1159386-ps4-is-quite-the-engineering-marvel/#entry595764660 so you created two threads for the same topic because?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyJordan Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Also shown here as the power connector is the standard two prong cable connector (like PS3) Was it changed to a 2-pin connector with the PS3 slim? Because my fat PS3 uses the 3-pin "kettle cord" connector; the same one that's used with PC power supplies.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Wanderer Chicken Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 I wonder if you could install Windows on the PS4 because its a X86/64 processor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nilus Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 "PS4 is quite the engineering marvel" and then uses a picture of the xbox one innards *facepalm* Praetor 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinMunkee Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 <p>Seeing as how the PS4 doesn't have HDMI in, and some of the chips that Xbox One has, which cause the machine to be so wide, and instead of using a full sized Blu-Ray drive, the PS4 uses a laptop drive which reduces height. So, I don't think it's as much an engineering marvel as it is just lacking in hardware. It's a great system, sure, but definitely not a technological marvel. I'm not praising the Xbox over the Playstation, but there are things the playstation is missing compared to the Xbox One.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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